Did i downgrade?? eg-K vs eg-B

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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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i recently bought a 94 eg hatch K swapped. k20z3 with a few bolt-ons.. kidd racing header, cold air intake, and it already has fuel rail/regulator cuz of the swap and Kpro.. tuned open header making 207 on a dyno jet and 280 on Nos and its a 5spd tranny

i just raced my old eg hatch i had built and i think i might have downgraded..
i dis not spray.. we ran all motor..


92 eg hatch has
stock 97 spec itr block
lsd itr tranny with exedy stage 1 clutch
fully built head: p/p, valves, retainers, springs, stage 2 camshafts, walbro 255lph fuel pump, 440cc injectors, fuel rail/regulator, tri-y header, 2.5 inch piping all the way, performer x intake manifold, 70mm thottle body, 3inch cold air intake. hondata s100 tuned in a dyno jet making 200whp

we wer both doing a 15mph rolling start and he was pulling away from me in just about every gear until i hit 4th.. i thought i might have the upper hand..

is this right or something wrong?
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Old May 27, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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you can't really compare a built b series with a basic bolt on k swap.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fabioso
you can't really compare a built b series with a basic bolt on k swap.
yep... also im sure his gearing is alot closer then your 5 speed trans is, get a 6 speed and run it again i bet you will get it... long gearing with all motor is poop
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Old May 27, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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It's the transmission man. It makes a big difference in acceleration. Plus imo 207 is a little low for a bolt on and tuned z3. You should be around 218-220 from what I've seen. Either way good luck with your new car.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by siregcivic
yep... also im sure his gearing is alot closer then your 5 speed trans is, get a 6 speed and run it again i bet you will get it... long gearing with all motor is poop

actually i had to shift 1st before he did.. i was told my redline was at 8500 and his is at 9300 rpm
i was normally tuned for nitrous but i have a change of heart amd might go all motor
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Old May 27, 2012 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Chef Andre
It's the transmission man. It makes a big difference in acceleration. Plus imo 207 is a little low for a bolt on and tuned z3. You should be around 218-220 from what I've seen. Either way good luck with your new car.
the only bolt-ons i see are cold air intake, kidd racing header, and a blox adapter plate with a stock thottle body, and the intake manifold might b stock.. it says RBC but dnt know if the stock z3 manifold says rbc on the stock manifold.. and KPro
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Old May 27, 2012 | 04:55 PM
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Rbc is stock for a z3. You need a 6 speed.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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stock Z3 manifold says "RBC"?
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Old May 28, 2012 | 06:42 AM
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get a 4.7 6 speed tranny and rematch
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Old May 28, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Did i downgrade?? eg-K vs eg-B

im either looking to buy a 6 spd tranny or just buy a k20 type r motor w/tranny
since im already looking to make good power after a full valvetrain
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Old May 28, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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No point in doing a type r conversion if you have a perfectly good z3. If anything do a k24a2.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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I'd say you definitely downgraded! Long live the B series!
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Old May 28, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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Nah you didn't downgrade. Just get a proper all motor tune and you shouldn't have a problem beating your old car. Remember stock vs. built. Also no real point in getting a type-r tranny since you already have a 4.7 fd and an lsd.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambo123
Nah you didn't downgrade. Just get a proper all motor tune and you shouldn't have a problem beating your old car. Remember stock vs. built. Also no real point in getting a type-r tranny since you already have a 4.7 fd and an lsd.
You missed the part where he has a 5speed
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Old May 28, 2012 | 10:12 PM
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yea 5spd tranny
friend of mine had the 5spd for NOS
but im not a huge fan of nos so im wanting an all motor set up now
i just gotta find a shop that sells one
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Old May 30, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FlewByU352
I'd say you definitely downgraded! Long live the B series!
i wonder if i downgraded going from many b swaps to my h swap, only lost to 1 b swap, and that **** was fully built itb aem ems aem coil packs tune by bisi every other b swap i beat and im stock longblock h22a1 usdm motor and trans with a smash dc header
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Old May 31, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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k series over b all day
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Old Jun 1, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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Default Re: Did i downgrade?? eg-K vs eg-B

Like some said b4, 6 speed trans swap will do. But some head work will rip that Eg up
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Old Jun 2, 2012 | 06:01 AM
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Car should be making more power and the tranny is killing you. Put a bigger tb on there, retune it and trade your tranny for a 6 speed. I'm sure you can find people willing to trade if they're running a boosted setup.
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