A friend and I took his car to a little event at a backwoods track yesterday and won our class.

I along with some others believe that Nitto Neo Gens work awesome for what they are on a street Honda. On a completely unprepped 1/8th mile track we managed a best of 8.2 @ 87mph with a full interior 92 Dx hatch. Not only did we get close to the 7's with a regular old tire we also won our class and took home some $$$$. Personally, I think it is awesome that we were able to run those times on this particular track on real street radials.

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thats a good ET for those tires for sure. probably like a high 12 in the 1/4?

 

I think it will do a lot better than a high 12. I am thinking more along the lines of a mid to low 12 in the 1/4.

gringotegra on here went mid 11's on a set of these with his turbo Integra. His 1/8th ET was something like an 8.1-8.2 with a speed around 100mph.

The best 60' cut on these yesterday was a 2.0x, and like I said the track had no prep. In the beginning there was very little tack on the track. Later in the day I did see one person spray a little VHT down, which did make the track feel a little better, however, no one saw any positive results later in the day.

 

hard to compare a turbo cars 1/8th ET vs 1/4 ET


i ran 12.4 @ 109 on slicks with a 7.99 @ 88


bolt on k20a ek with stage 2 cams

 

This car has went 12.5 @ 108 on 23" slicks with the new owner. The 1/8th times for that pass was an 8.0 and that was with a crappy 60' as well. Stock cams, stock everything as far as the engine goes. There was still a kids seat in the back seat on that pass.

When I had the car I bolted a set of 22" slicks to the car and went a 7.91 @ 88mph and toasted the clutch. At the time it was essentially a stock clutch in the car. Now it has a CC stage 5.

I can say that the car has gotten faster now that there are some miles on the engine. When I put it together the engine had a fresh rebuild. I bought the engine thinking it was a good running engine, turns out it was not. After replacing 6 bent valves and the pistons the engine was ready to go again. It now has about 20k miles on it since the rebuild and it feels faster. The track times are also improving. Also, when I put the car the car together it had a Quaife LSD. The tranny developed a crack in the bell housing area and started leaking fluid. The new owner bought another tranny and never had me swap in the Quaife, so these new runs were done with an open diff.

 

so it did 12.5 on slicks before with more mph. now on street tires and less mph you think that pass might have been a low 12?



doesnt add up. not hating the car is obviously super strong for what it is. The whole full interior and car seat thing doesnt mean much to me my times are in an ek with power windows and everything it was over 2500 with driver lol.

 

If you go back to what I typed in here, I specifically said "I am thinking more along the lines of a mid to low 12 in the 1/4."

The only way to really find out is take it to a 1/4 track and see what it'll do.

 

like i said not hating. the car is running real good and i always have love for another k swap car

 

Comparison from it's best 1/4 time on slicks and best 1/8th time on Neo Gens. I know there are a lot of variables between the two. The slick pass was done on a lot nicer well kept track for one. Earlier on that particular day he did run a 12.7 on slicks with a 2.0 60' the mph for that pass was 108.75.

23" Slicks on Lensos:
60' - 1.822
1/8th - 8.071
mph - 85.95
1/4 - 12.594
mph - 108.74

This pass was done at Virginia Motorsports Park. First time he had ever driven this car on slicks and he was a little apprehensive.

Neo Gens pass:
60' - 2.070
1/8th - 8.294
mph - 87.61

This pass was done at Natural Bridge Dragstrip with no track prep at all.

Looks like that if he ever made it to a nice 1/4 track it would run possibly mid 12's around 110mph on Neo Gens.

 

The trap is probably a few mph higher on street tires due to lack of traction. If you were to get the 60ft down to around what it 60'd on slicks, the trap would more than likely be about the same as on the slick passes.

 

yeah, we think it would be really cool if we could make it out to a nice track with a good prep and break into the 7.999 area. Just a little something to brag about :-)

 

Treblic tuned says it all, Chris is the man.

 

good run bro

 

I can't say how it would be on this car, but i know for a fact with my car i pick up mph in the 1/8th on slicks.

 

I watched the video, car hooked well in 2nd gear.

 

Chris is definitely a good tuner and a good dude. We joke about this car all the time considering what it made on the dyno. He also told me that it was the least modded K20 that he had ever tuned and to not even bring back his way till it had some more mods!!! haha

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Yeah, I would assume that this car would react the same way, but as of right now it has picked up a few mph with the Neo Gens. I think that mainly has to do with it spinning a little.

In this particular video it actually ran an 8.3 or 8.4 with the same mph. The 8.2 pass was earlier in the day, actually it was the 2nd pass of the day just after I adjusted the air pressure in the tires, which was set at 27 psi on that pass. We have that pass on video, but I have not edited it yet. It was not as cool as this footage with the camera facing the rear.

I do not think it is going to get any faster, but I think my friend can cut some 1.9x 60's at a good track. I was told that another friend with a K swapped EG hatch cut some 1.9x's on the same tire at a better track. If we can do that, and he can get it down the track pretty well then that 7.999 pass might happen.

 

I don't think you can compare a near 700whp car to a less than 250whp car.

 

Check it out dude, he said "I can't say how it would be on this car, but i know for a fact with my car i pick up mph in the 1/8th on slicks."

Gringotegra and I both know that his car is going to go faster since he makes nearly 500 more hp. Having said that, his 1/8th times are not a ton faster than our 1/8th times. I know his mph is higher, he told me he spins most of 2nd gear, but there are things to learn and or try from a faster car using the same tires. Plus I know he has a little more experience using them at the track.

Since we can not afford to play with the fast cars right now, we think it is fun and challenging to surprise people at the track with regular old Neo Gens.

 

nice Travis!

 

Thanks Chris.

Got that ride of yours done yet?

 

Nice run bro! what track is this i've been looking for more tracks in VA. that looks like yall have a good import scene i go to sumerduck...always racing bunch of hotrods lol

 

I know what he said, but saying it in here is pretty much giving the benefit to compare. I figured you were smart enough to know that both cars will act much differently to traction, one being way more impaired than the other. Some people reading this may not be as smart though.

 

Personally, I would rather race RWD cars more than FWD's. Unless the FWD's are competitive with whatever me or my friends are racing.

I have heard of this Sumerduck track, but never been there. I think I have a couple cousins that live in Orange or Gordonsville, somewhere around there that race some really fast RWD cars at that track.

The import scene is lacking. Before I moved to where I am living I really didn't have any friends into FWD's other than one other friend with an ITR. Most of my friends with Hondas live in NC. Where I am living now there are more Hondas around, but a lot of people are hard headed or just trendy and I am not really into that. Maybe they think the same about me? hahaha....

Werd. If they are reading this and become confused or can not read between the lines then they should just ask. Myles and I have talked off and on for a few years now. We have both always been interested in street tire racing with FWD's. Back in 2002-2003 I got out of the Honda scene for a little while and dang near restored a 1992 Sentra SE-R. Ended up swapping in a SR20DET and I outran so much junk at the track with regular old Nittos on it. Since that point I realized that with enough seat time, racing on regular radials can be fun. I know it will not yield the fastest times at the track, but it makes it easy to take the car to the track and I find it pretty fun.

My next project will be on street tires. Been wanting that 10 second street tire run since 2007 when I went 11's on street tires on a stock B18C and a Drag turbo kit.

 

im glad you popped vtec my son im proud

 

just waiting on chasebays to finish the harness... ordered a few new goodies today, hope to make a trip to mooresville for some testing in the next month. will def keep you up to date my friend!