This is kinda stupid so burn me all you want.

Has anybody ever taken a B series motor out of an EF without removing the transmission? I should probably stop trying to skip steps and take the damn trans out, but hey I'm lazy.

 

um your gonna have to pull the halfshaft and most of the brakets out except the passanger side mount for the trans so why not just pull the whole swap it will just be double the work and harder to not take the trans out

 

i just did this last week by myself =/ it sucked ***, and it was right under my garage door so the hoist didnt go all the way up

Also, i just put my motor in too with the tranny attached, and the halfshaft and alternator..

 

I actually just unbolted the half shaft from the block and spun it out of the way. It's looking like the clutch might not clear the trans housing. Going to take the crank pulley off tomorrow to give myself a little more room on the other side.

I took everything off because I've been waiting for my engine hoist to be returned. Figured it's got to come off anyways, might as well do it while I'm waiting. Well I'm tired of waiting so I'm using a chain hoist.

Pics for fun

 

I don't think lazy is the correct word for it... Let your imagination go wild until you find the correct term.

1.) You do realize that the input shaft goes into the crankshaft right? The clutch/pressure plate is only the half of it.

2.) Even though I understand those walls are trashed; Putting a steel chain in a cylinder bore is NEVER a good idea. Period. End of topic.

3.) That's as far as I feel like going right now...

I can pull the entire transmission and engine (complete) with or without a lift - engine hoist or chain fall/come-a-long - in 45-60 minutes start to finish. It is SO easy it's ridiculous. The route you are trying to take is ludicrous. You are at the point now where 5-10 minutes you could have the transmission on the floor seperately. I know this is your first time and all (if it's not then - YIKES!!!), but this is probably the most inefficient way I have ever seen. Good luck.

 

that what i said i would of understood if he was just gonna drop the trans but just pull the block and not the tranny is not worth it also hes not able to align the main shaft with the clutch so im sure it will go on crooked

 

Yup, op, you're doing it wrong.

 

1.) You do realize that the input shaft goes into the crankshaft right? The clutch/pressure plate is only the half of it.

2.) Even though I understand those walls are trashed; Putting a steel chain in a cylinder bore is NEVER a good idea. Period. End of topic.

3.) That's as far as I feel like going right now...

I can pull the entire transmission and engine (complete) with or without a lift - engine hoist or chain fall/come-a-long - in 45-60 minutes start to finish. It is SO easy it's ridiculous. The route you are trying to take is ludicrous. You are at the point now where 5-10 minutes you could have the transmission on the floor seperately. I know this is your first time and all (if it's not then - YIKES!!!), but this is probably the most inefficient way I have ever seen. Good luck.[/QUOTE]





Great you should come over and pull my junk. You can take that how you want.

1. Thanks for that, I had no idea. If the clutch will clear the trans housing, obviously the input shaft will also clear the clutch, as it does not extend past the trans housing.

2. If you actually looked at the pic you'll notice lots of metal (valve) fragments on top of piston #1. What you can't see is the top of the piston #3 looks like a gravel pit and cylinder #1&2 are completely split

3. I did expect some burn, but at least post with some intelligence.

@tony
Emmm you use a clutch tool to align the clutch before the engine and the trans mate, after that it's kinda hard to miss fitting up the input shaft

@crvtectim
A couple of these posts would have done just fine. Thank you.

 

Child, You are obviously a complete idiot. Do you not know how to read? The casing will clear the PRESSURE PLATE. The clutch is inside this assembly. Your problem is that the inputshaft goes in farther than the pressure plate does in the case. When you think about it - it HAS to. I also clearly stated the cylinders were trashed. Intelligence? I am probably one of the more/most knowledgable people on this site and many others. Where is my cookie? When you post ignorant things on the Internet you are bound to be treated as an idiot. Laziness doesn't always translate into stupidity, but in this case it does. This is clearly shown by your jump to aggression from some simple constructive criticism. Nobody was attacking you, we all went extremely easy on you.

 

I will admit I was overlooking the fact that I had to clear the input shaft before clearing the trans housing. I was going off what I could see and not thinking into it. So you were correct in you first statement. Your second statement well, that was pretty stupid.

The first thing I posted was that it was a stupid idea. I was simply asking if anyone had tried. It was only 5 trans bolts to try so I figured I would.

Your initial post was clearly condescending. You get what you give.

 

you dont get it....the clutch disk is already aligned yes but when you put the weight of the trans the disk will move or cause it to sit crooked as if you where pushing the clutch pedal and it will cause the clutch to fail or chatter

 

If I were in your position and I was waiting for an engine hoist I would just do it without the hoist and just drop it out the bottom. I've done it myself I'm "lazy" and it'll take me 2 hours out and 2 hours in.