I was looking at mine today and noticed that there are grooves in the ends of the differential where the axles go in. One side has the grooves lining up at a notch and the other side has them NOT lining up at a notch.

I looked in the Helm and I can't seem to find anything regarding these grooves. Does anyone have any idea what those are for and if it matters that they don't BOTH line up at a notch?

Also....when I hold the differential in my hands and flip it end over end I can hear the gears inside making a very slight "clacking" sound. Is this normal? I'm thinking in might be but I want to double check.

 

not to get off topic, but i don't know the answe to your question, but i;ve got one for you.....

how did you get the roller bearings and gear off the factory differential?

 

1. You use a tool called a bearing puller. It pretty much mounts on top of the differential and by turning a bolt it will pull the bearing off as the tool "expands." If I had a picture it would be easier to understand.

2. To get the ring gear off the stock differential you just remove bolts (I think there's 10 altogether)



[Modified by Joon525, 1:32 PM 10/13/2002]

 

no, i meant the gear that is below the roller bearing, not the ring gear, that's the easy one to get off.

 

Believe it or not one of the good things about doing this install is that you can use a new set of bearings and gears if you choose. The pressed on gear can be fun to remove and a replacement might be easier to deal with. Just a thought.

 

The grooves are to let oil get in there. When you are cornering, the axel is rotating in that hole, and the grooves let oil inbetween the axel and the socket. Also, that rattle from the gears in the quaife is normal.

How did you get the bearings off the old diff again? I'm familiar with a bearing puller, and I don't see how you can get to the bearing to pull it. You can pull on the roller cage, but that would just bend up the cage and ruin the bearing. I've installed a few quaifes, and I always just buy new roller bearings from honda.

Good luck with the install, you will like having the LSD.

 

I think that means it's broken. But I'll take it off your hands for $250.

Andrew

 

Hahaha...nice try Andrew

Just in case anyone else ever gets interested.

Thanks for the responses. As for removing that gear....I'm clueless about this. I'm not installing this myself as I originally wanted to.

 

there is a write up on this (quaife on a prelude) in a new import magazine that i saw on the shelves..i forgot the name of it though.

 

Hey Joon, did you clean out the bolt holes for the ring gear? Supposedly there is anti-seize in these holes, but it looked pretty gritty to me. I used a .45 cal bore brush and some Fantastic to clean them out. I think I read about this in a writeup on hondaprelude.com (before the close, of course). If you do decide to clean them out, make sure you cover the holes in the diff with tape or something first, or else the grit will run into the diff. Re: the clack, I think mine did that too before I installed it.

 

I'll check that tomorrow when I go to the installer's place.

On another note...
I'm going to the installer tomorrow to take pictures of the stock differential vs the Quaife along with the stock flywheel vs the Fidanza and stock clutch vs the Exedy.
If there's any specific shot of whatever item that someone wants, please post the request here and I'll do my best to remember to check this thread tomorrow.

 

flywheel

 

You should take pictures of the inside of the transmission as well. Lots of people dont know what the inside of their tranny looks like. Now would be a good opportunity for that. I can give you guys a hint though. Tiny. You will also be suprised at how clean it is once apart.

 

OK I just got back from the installer. He turned the stock differential upside down and used a small chisel to slowly tap away at the ring gear (I now know what you were talking about).

I'll have pics up soon.


[Modified by Joon525, 8:15 AM 10/15/2002]

 

Stock differential


Quaife with the ring gear on it


Teeth on the stock flywheel


Teeth on the Fidanza


Teeth on the stock starter


More pictures available at the following link
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291248527
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password: test

I got back from the installer a little while ago. Checked everything out and took these pics. Then I get a call telling me that the Fidanza flywheel's holes do not line up correctly. So I am going to use the stock flywheel, Exedy clutch and Quaife ATB differential. Kind of pissed about this. :confused:

 

Does anyone know what magazine has the quaife install article?

Thanks for putting up the pics. I could not see the other ones from the link though. That speedo gear is not too bad if you just take your time. I've used combinations of a brass punch and bearing pullers to get them off. Getting it on the new diff can be a little tricky, but again, patience pays off. If you're using a punch/chisel, just make sure you stay on the inside edge of the gear or you might bend/chip the teeth on it.

 

is the fidanza flywheel for your motor specificaly? it seams odd that it wouldnt line up, im just curious because im going to start shopping for a flywheel because im upgrading my clutch im wondering if the accord type r or jdm h series motor might have a different starter flywheel setup

 

It's supposed to be but I'm going to triple check when I get home tonight. I might get this replaced from Fidanza as well (I'm going to try anyway).

 

The following is a duplicate post from po.com. I'm posting this here in an attempt to help out other Prelude owners so that they might not end up in the situation that I did (flywheel didn't fit).
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I did some research.
This is the link for the Fidanza catalog.
http://www.aluminumflywheels.com/docs/flywheel.pdf

muncher (user from po.com) has an uninstalled Fidanza for the Prelude.
Here's what's on his flywheel.

In case you can't tell that says "H4"

Here's MY Fidanza flywheel.

"H4 1470"

So maybe the one that muncher has will work on my car. Now I'm wondering.......what Prelude would use the one that I HAVE??? a 4th Gen maybe? The difference between the 2 flywheels is that one is made for a 7.25" clutch and one isn't as badmofo said. I'm guessing there might be a difference between the 5th and 4th Gen flywheels???? Anyone have any ideas?
(And yes I so wish someone else experienced and wrote about this before me)

 

All H22A and H23 Preludes use the same flywheel. All Prelude flywheel manufacturers that I've ever seen specify the same part for both 93-01 H22A and 92-96 H23 applications.

Andrew

 

maybe it is an F22 flywheel.. Mine bolted right on. and I believe it said H4 1470
Josh

 

The part number that every website lists, that sells fidanza flywheels is
191221 for 92-01 all preludes..

But I checked on part #'s for stock flywheels, and from 92-93 S,SI,Vtec have same part #'s and 94-96 S,SI,Vtec have a differant one.
Someone??

 

Initally that is what I thought too but then why does that PDF file show that Fidanza makes 2 flywheels for the 2.2 Prelude? Maybe none of this is relevant though.....maybe I just have a defect.


[Modified by Joon525, 5:12 AM 10/17/2002]