Found a stock GSR, is it worth close to what he is asking?
Im in the market for a new integra GSR and i found one locally from an older gentlemen. it is a 1997 GSR with 102k original miles and is 100% stock and he is the 2nd owner, it has had the clutch replaced 1k miles ago and the TB/WP was done 10K miles ago, it also has new all season tires from early march. the owner said the car was backed into 2 years ago and it needed a new fender and front bumper and due to knowing a friend in the in the auto body industry and the overall condition of the paint he had the whole car resprayed. he also stated it has minor imperfections on the front bumper from daily driving such as rock chips. It seems he has been searching online and is aware of how rare one of these is in stock form with similar mileage. he is asking $7200 obo due to the rarity and status of maintenance which he has receipts for. he says he is selling due to needing a bigger car for him and his family, what do you guys think?
Last edited by hondatuner020; Apr 5, 2012 at 05:19 PM.
Yeah that's overly optimistic on his part, unlikely that anyone looking for an integra is going to pony up that much cash or even anything close to his asking price. Watch that ad sit for about 2 months, then he'll pull it and re-list it at like 6 grand, and probably end up taking closer to 5 if hes lucky.
Unmolested GSR's are tough to come by, but the people looking for them aren't usually looking to drop $7,200 on one. He's clearly out of touch with who his prospective buyers will end up being.
Unmolested GSR's are tough to come by, but the people looking for them aren't usually looking to drop $7,200 on one. He's clearly out of touch with who his prospective buyers will end up being.
Seriously... it's worth what someone will pay for it. Sounds like you haven't looked at the car yet ("he stated..." about the front bumper)?
Without hitting KBB.com, sounds to me like high retail for a 15-year-old Integra, though the mileage is not bad if it's correct, and if it hasn't been boogered-up, that's a plus. Is it a clean, non-salvage title? When the timing belt and water pump were done, were the front seals done too? (believe it or not, some guys don't think it's worth the few extra bucks- I found out the hard way when I bought my current DA.) Look real carefully under the hood where the body repair was done to make sure there isn't any residual damage- compare both sides. If you have a pair of ramps, take them- or borrow some- and insist on looking under the car- check the oil pan, steering rack, CV boots, exhaust, etc. Drive it and pay attention to the suspension and steering. I only say all this because of the asking price for a car this old (even a "rare" GSR). And, keep in mind, Carfax can be your friend- good cost-to-benefit ratio for a $7K car.
You'll be the one to decide if it's worth the price. Do your due diligence so you'll be able to live with your decision if you buy it. And don't be afraid to negotiate- hard- focusing on every weak point. Best of luck.
Without hitting KBB.com, sounds to me like high retail for a 15-year-old Integra, though the mileage is not bad if it's correct, and if it hasn't been boogered-up, that's a plus. Is it a clean, non-salvage title? When the timing belt and water pump were done, were the front seals done too? (believe it or not, some guys don't think it's worth the few extra bucks- I found out the hard way when I bought my current DA.) Look real carefully under the hood where the body repair was done to make sure there isn't any residual damage- compare both sides. If you have a pair of ramps, take them- or borrow some- and insist on looking under the car- check the oil pan, steering rack, CV boots, exhaust, etc. Drive it and pay attention to the suspension and steering. I only say all this because of the asking price for a car this old (even a "rare" GSR). And, keep in mind, Carfax can be your friend- good cost-to-benefit ratio for a $7K car.
You'll be the one to decide if it's worth the price. Do your due diligence so you'll be able to live with your decision if you buy it. And don't be afraid to negotiate- hard- focusing on every weak point. Best of luck.
Have you looked at the kbb value? It's only 4800 in excellent condition which it's obviously not. Plus the car is not rare even with that mileage. If hes solid on that price and won't budge walk away.
yea i see where you guys are coming from, i looked on auto trader and i couldn't find a stock gsr with that mileage for that price so im confused by the replies with (stock gsr's with that mileage aren't rare) the title is clean, im torn because when i spoke to him it was as if he knew the car was worth around 5-5.5k but due to it needing no maintence he is asking 7.2 as he had spent over 2k in maintaining the past year , but i feel as if 7.2 is just his high asking price willing to take in the 6's somewhere.
yea i see where you guys are coming from, i looked on auto trader and i couldn't find a stock gsr with that mileage for that price so im confused by the replies with (stock gsr's with that mileage aren't rare) the title is clean, im torn because when i spoke to him it was as if he knew the car was worth around 5-5.5k but due to it needing no maintence he is asking 7.2 as he had spent over 2k in maintaining the past year , but i feel as if 7.2 is just his high asking price willing to take in the 6's somewhere.
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not worth 7200, worth about 5000-5500 as others have said. dude in the other thread with a 50k mile gsr might get 7000, at 102k miles 5000ish is the going rate
**** i'd be happy with 7000 out of my gsr and it has a 4500 dollar jdm itr swap, koni gc, greddy exhaust, corbeaus, all new bushings etc
**** i'd be happy with 7000 out of my gsr and it has a 4500 dollar jdm itr swap, koni gc, greddy exhaust, corbeaus, all new bushings etc
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I would maybe pay 4.5k if the timing belt and water pump had been replaced, valve lashing has been done. 7k is a joke. There is a guy that is the original owner of a 96 gsr with 56k, exterior is mint, interior seats have cracks. He might get 6-7k for his.
It don't work like that. If it is worth 5.5 in the book then that is for a car that has had the needed maintenance for the mileage. This is like someone who wants to sell their modded car and wants face value for every part he put on. Ain't happening!!!
yea i see where you guys are coming from, i looked on auto trader and i couldn't find a stock gsr with that mileage for that price so im confused by the replies with (stock gsr's with that mileage aren't rare) the title is clean, im torn because when i spoke to him it was as if he knew the car was worth around 5-5.5k but due to it needing no maintence he is asking 7.2 as he had spent over 2k in maintaining the past year , but i feel as if 7.2 is just his high asking price willing to take in the 6's somewhere.
I've sold both my Gsr's for over 7k lol but one had a brand new ITR swap. They have come down a LOT in price the last few years though. I would say 6k tops if it didn't have the Body damage for the goin rate currently.
I use kbb as a reference but realize that different markets will price differently. That being said so he did required maintence, so what, it was required so either he was going to have to do it any how or if not you would have to do it when you bought it and could talk him down on the price for it. Either way it only adds a little value to the car knowing the guy probably cared for it a little better than the next guy. Either way it's your call but IMO 7k is way too much even if it didn't need repairs.
Yeah, so what that he did maintenance. And nevermind that it has very low miles for a 15 year old car. A car that has been well taken care of should sell for as much as a neglected car.
like our R swap gsr's . you have a car that gets 28-30mpg and still feels quick and enjoyable to drive around.
lot of them are getting aged and beat up. it's getting harder and harder to find either a stock one. or one modded with high end parts and restored. lot of the cars are just dropped on junk shocks, ricer muffler and get the **** driven out of them daily. people that have the nice problem free ones aren't usually in a hurry to sell them
like our R swap gsr's . you have a car that gets 28-30mpg and still feels quick and enjoyable to drive around.
like our R swap gsr's . you have a car that gets 28-30mpg and still feels quick and enjoyable to drive around.
I usually go off KBB or NADA guide. I try to stay away from people that describe their Honda/Acura as a "super gas savor" or "rare". These are far from classic cars. I do however understand that most people who are selling these cars are all salvaged, totally beat up or completely ghetto in their styling. Though it is hard to find clean cars, they are out there. 2 years ago I bought a clean 96 LS SE DC4 off the original owner for $3k. The mileage was low as well. Now, that same year car with high miles and in fair condition is trying to be sold for $3500-$4k. Of course, these people are "firm" on their price.
Yes, their will always be someone who is "willing" to pay that price, but not only are they the village idiot, but they are helping drive the market up. A 88-91 CRX should not be worth anywhere close to $3k-$3500 like people are selling them in stock, good/fair condition.
I'm ok with paying $500 over KBB, but most people are either double or $3k higher. That just too much. If you want to pay that much, go for it, but know that it's way overpriced. Hopefully you will at least keep it for the next 15 years and not mess with it too much.
Yes, their will always be someone who is "willing" to pay that price, but not only are they the village idiot, but they are helping drive the market up. A 88-91 CRX should not be worth anywhere close to $3k-$3500 like people are selling them in stock, good/fair condition.
I'm ok with paying $500 over KBB, but most people are either double or $3k higher. That just too much. If you want to pay that much, go for it, but know that it's way overpriced. Hopefully you will at least keep it for the next 15 years and not mess with it too much.
Used car prices, [whatever the condition of the car is] is what the market will bare, and eventually someone may pay the $7200 he is asking for, it depends on how long he is prepared to wait, or if someone willing to pay $7200 sees it.
I would have a look at the car, pay a mechanic to look it over, decide what your willing to pay, [can live with] and make an offer, if he bulks at your offer, give him your number and ask him to call if he changes his mind, if you lowball him, your not going to get the car, he will wait to see if he can get a better offer, he probably will wait anyway, but if you give him your best offer, he may wait a bit, [you can keep looking] and if your still looking when he calls, your good to go, if he does not call he gotmore for it then you would want to pay anyway.
There is one other possibility, you may be the guy willing to pay what he wants, if it was me, the car would have to be "mint", no "fender benders", all original, [including paint] and definatly less then 100,000 miles, one owner, [not two, never know how the first owner took care of car] pass a mechanics inspection and then I would probably pay up to $6900, but not the asking price, [whatever it is], I would rather walk away. 94
I would have a look at the car, pay a mechanic to look it over, decide what your willing to pay, [can live with] and make an offer, if he bulks at your offer, give him your number and ask him to call if he changes his mind, if you lowball him, your not going to get the car, he will wait to see if he can get a better offer, he probably will wait anyway, but if you give him your best offer, he may wait a bit, [you can keep looking] and if your still looking when he calls, your good to go, if he does not call he gotmore for it then you would want to pay anyway.
There is one other possibility, you may be the guy willing to pay what he wants, if it was me, the car would have to be "mint", no "fender benders", all original, [including paint] and definatly less then 100,000 miles, one owner, [not two, never know how the first owner took care of car] pass a mechanics inspection and then I would probably pay up to $6900, but not the asking price, [whatever it is], I would rather walk away. 94
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