advice on widebands
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Folks,
I need some advice on widebands. I'm looking to buy a new one. I've owned two LC-1s which have both crapped out on me. At this point, I think if I can get one that where the controller will remain in the cabin that may resolve my issues. So, please post up your recommendations and experiences.
I need some advice on widebands. I'm looking to buy a new one. I've owned two LC-1s which have both crapped out on me. At this point, I think if I can get one that where the controller will remain in the cabin that may resolve my issues. So, please post up your recommendations and experiences.
Last edited by mar778c; Mar 25, 2012 at 10:03 AM.
I'm happy with my MTX-L -- easy to install, it's easy to switch between wideband and narrow band signals, the controller is inside the car, the gauge is good, and it responds fast. Plus, direct logging in Neptune is great. But, maybe you're sick of Innovate...
I don't have experience with other widebands so this is more of a vouch than a recommendation.
I don't have experience with other widebands so this is more of a vouch than a recommendation.
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I've owned my LC-1 for 8+ years and only replaced the sensor once. I have the controller James behind my brake lines in the bay right above the sensor.
NGK or PLX, I have a innovate LC1, been through 6 or 7 sensors over the past year, and the controller's voltage regulator finally failed 2 weeks ago, had to rip it out and order a new one, since unfortunately their DB gauges, which accent my interior nicely, dont work with any other controller.
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Innovate is JUNK... Nearly every one that we have installed has come back with problems with the controller or sensor.
Ive been on the same NGK AFX for 4 years. Zero problems.
Also, had a decent experience with the AEM UEGO, but the gauge is a bit laggy.
Ive been on the same NGK AFX for 4 years. Zero problems.

Also, had a decent experience with the AEM UEGO, but the gauge is a bit laggy.
innovate are absolute junk, ive heard nothing but constant complaints about them, wish i never bought mine, and the bosch sensor elements in all of the compatible sensors are made of tissue paper. I get maybe 3-4 months at best of normal operation, then the whole thing takes a **** and you gotta replace the sensor.
I ran an AEM for 3 years on my last turbo car without a single problem.
But my current build is getting a PLX, because it costs about the same as the AEM with more features and a nicer gauge.
But my current build is getting a PLX, because it costs about the same as the AEM with more features and a nicer gauge.
i have my zeitronix wideband kit since it originally came out (2004 i think?). still works well and i only replaced the bosch sensor once only because i felt like it....
you can find kits cheaper than the zeitronix setup but i'm just telling you another option to consider as it does work well.
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/ZR-1/ZR-1.shtml
you can find kits cheaper than the zeitronix setup but i'm just telling you another option to consider as it does work well.
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/ZR-1/ZR-1.shtml
i have an lc1 i think it finally crapped out on me, i tuned about 6 cars with it, and the last car i was street tuning was a turbo b20v and it just stopped working, i pulled the o2 re calibrated it 3 times and it just read 14.7
I love my AEM UEGO. Paid $100 for a use one and it's worked great. It's literally plug and play and you're good to go, unless you connect it to your hondata. Then it's just wiring one wire.
PLX dm6 sm-afr
great kit and controler is in side
digital display with both numbers and graph
very accurate and you can pull out the display and put it away if you only want it for tunning
http://www.plxdevices.com/
great kit and controler is in side
digital display with both numbers and graph
very accurate and you can pull out the display and put it away if you only want it for tunning
http://www.plxdevices.com/
same here, i do replace the sensor every 10k miles or so i noticed they can become a little off.
**** i still have my old big lm-1 innovate that i bought like 8 years ago. its got to be on like the 10th sensor and ive had to resolder where the power inlet is on the computer board, but it still works
**** i still have my old big lm-1 innovate that i bought like 8 years ago. its got to be on like the 10th sensor and ive had to resolder where the power inlet is on the computer board, but it still works





