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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 01:53 PM
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My Si is kind of barren. No fogs, no under body spoiler, curb rashed wheels, paint chips starting to accumulate on the hood.

I have about 800 dollars and I can either go with FlashPro or get an OEM front under spoiler, take it to a detail shop and have the chips fixed, and some other misc. cosmetic touches. Which would you do? Thanks.

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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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I would probably do coilovers before of them... but that is just me!
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 03:02 PM
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Definitely not fix the minor appearance issues. From the picture (and people seeing it on the street), it looks good. You're probably the only one seeing those problems and you'll get more anyways.

I'm with Dave, I'd get suspension. Long time no see Dave. :D
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Kold
My Si is kind of barren. No fogs, no under body spoiler, curb rashed wheels, paint chips starting to accumulate on the hood.

I have about 800 dollars and I can either go with FlashPro or get an OEM front under spoiler, take it to a detail shop and have the chips fixed, and some other misc. cosmetic touches. Which would you do? Thanks.
Flashpro. If I get another Si in the future, that'll be my first mod. The Si actually handles really good in stock form, I'd replace the tires before replacing the suspension.

As for the paint chips, I'd just live with it. You'll be accumulating new chips even after painting.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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If you want to improve performance, then tighten up the suspension. No need for crazy (and pricey) coilovers, where I'm assuming you're not experienced in dialing in the right settings anyway. Go with the HFP suspension, Progress Rear Sway Bar, and any brand (I went with Megan) underside H-Brace. This is the set up Honda should have gone with on an Si. If people say there isn't much to improve from stock, then they have no clue.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Motor/Suspension mods
Fixing little imperfections
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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The HFP suspension isn't that expensive?

My list of stuff I planned on doing

HFP kit
Fog lights
Racing header
Intake
FlashPro
09 Si wheels or Slip Streams
Falken tires
and I wasn't even thinking about other suspension components, but I guess I should at least lower it.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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The HFP suspension isn't that expensive?
About half the price of a half decent coilover system, ...and it's (the coilovers) garbage if you don't know how to dail in the right settings.

If you're going for a lowered look, you ain't gonna get it with the HFP Suspension. You'll just go from 4X4 look to 4X2. Only way to make it "look" half decent is going with black wheels, ...as I have done. The HFP Suspension is for Hellafunctional and no where near Hellaflush. It's up to you what direction you want to go. Some people like apples and some like oranges. It keeps us humans from being robots off an assembly line.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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For more quality options on suspension check with Chris @ redshift, can never go wrong with konis, if hfp doesn't suit your needs
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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I say take your $800, go to a casino, and put it all on 31 black. Then you can either do both or you won't have to make the decision. Problem solved.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by k24z7
I say take your $800, go to a casino, and put it all on 31 black. Then you can either do both or you won't have to make the decision. Problem solved.
I like this idea!
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawn Si
If you want to improve performance, then tighten up the suspension. No need for crazy (and pricey) coilovers, where I'm assuming you're not experienced in dialing in the right settings anyway. Go with the HFP suspension, Progress Rear Sway Bar, and any brand (I went with Megan) underside H-Brace. This is the set up Honda should have gone with on an Si. If people say there isn't much to improve from stock, then they have no clue.
I'm not seeing where anybody said the stock suspension can't be improved.

Originally Posted by Kold
The HFP suspension isn't that expensive?

My list of stuff I planned on doing

HFP kit
Fog lights
Racing header
Intake
FlashPro
09 Si wheels or Slip Streams
Falken tires
and I wasn't even thinking about other suspension components, but I guess I should at least lower it.
As far as suspension mods, a rear sway bar and a camber kit should be first, whether you're going to replace the struts and springs or not. A camber kit alone would make a big improvement in handling; set up the back for -1.5 degrees, and front -2 or even -2.5.

Next, get good tires, if you don't have the optional summer tires. The factory all-seasons suck. Even a set of high-performance all-seasons would make a big difference. When I replaced my stock all-season tires on my '08 Si with Kumho Ecsta ASX (high-performance all-season), the handling improved by a lot. The Kumhos were a lot better in the snow as well, as I took my car skiing a few times and had to drive through some snowy/icy roads.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 06:02 PM
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I'd do suspension upgrades.
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Old Mar 20, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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I appreciate all the help, guys. I'll order the front lip since I can get it for $300 installed down the street. It seems like everyone is for suspension next, so how about some Tein S-Techs? Don't they drop it about an inch? (Really don't want to spend the cash on coil overs)

After that, some sexy Flat Black Rota Slip Streams and then FlashPro..
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 06:34 AM
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i agree, id go for power first, it looks good as it is.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 06:54 AM
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Id get a cheap BRAND header(not ebay) and a catback, then after that save another 800 and get a flashpro
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by vladd
I'm not seeing where anybody said the stock suspension can't be improved.
Maybe because I don't say anyone specific, ...as in I don't see me quoting anyone, ...and maybe the use of the word "if" should clue in that one may make mention of it at some point as usual, maybe not on this forum since there are a good number of Civic forums out there.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawn Si
Maybe because I don't say anyone specific, ...as in I don't see me quoting anyone, ...and maybe the use of the word "if" should clue in that one may make mention of it at some point as usual, maybe not on this forum since there are a good number of Civic forums out there.
So you're arguing against something that hasn't been said yet, just in case somebody does say it in the future... Brilliant!
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 10:31 AM
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Full bodied coil overs.
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vladd
So you're arguing against something that hasn't been said yet, just in case somebody does say it in the future... Brilliant!
And you're started arguing with me when I make no mention of you, ...brilliant, ...more like hypocrite!
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Old Mar 21, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Get a flashpro. That way, you've got a basis for further modding. You can flash new maps for each power mod you do after that.

Aside from that, get a clear bra to stop any further chipping on the front.
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Old Mar 27, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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Another vote for suspension. You're not going to get a whole lot of bang for you buck in terms of power on a NA...
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Old Mar 29, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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i say go for the suspension also, but that is me. Which choice are you leaning towards more?
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