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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Ok so car is going to paint like soon. I gotta remove the rear glass and quaters and windshield.
What trim needs to be replaced to do this?
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Too much trouble and you'll break what comes off. Just tape it up.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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Too much trouble and you'll break what comes off. Just tape it up.
Yep. My trim has never fit quite right since.
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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Mannn i cant tape it.... Gunna have paint lines.... **** that..
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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I know where your coming from.

The rear quarters are "glued" in and the trim is part of the glass, I took the time and cut them out, as mentioned a real PITA but doable.

The windshield trim is a lot easier, but also as mentioned you will most likely break some of the clips, there are a bunch of them and they can be replaced, the upper trim is all plastic, there are no clips, it will "peel" out in one piece if your carefull.

If you are not replacing the windshield, you will need to trim the butal, [windshield glue] so side trim clips and upper trim will fit in again, a bead of butal is needed to replace the butal you trim out and to properly hold the upper and side trims, [trim clips] in place.

There is a trick, my boss showed me, [sure wish I had of known this when I was painting the car], if you take a lenght of wire, [16ga or so] it can be tucked under the rubber trim anyplace it overlaps the paint, lifting it off the paint, tape the edge of trim off and paint the car, once paint has cured, the tape can be removed and the wire pulled out letting the trim drop back down onto the paint, paint line is under the trim ans no paint on the edge of the trim. 94
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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Yea i belive its called back tapeing. Im removeing all the glass. Im just worried that once its removed ill be ****ed and wont be able to put nice trim on my freshly painted car.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 12:42 AM
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If you are dead set on removing them look into these





iirc on 2nd gens the trim is not glued to the quarter windows. It just hooks behind it and clips in. It's still sketchy and damn near impossible to remove and reinstall intact though. Plastic gets very brittle after 20 years.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 04:28 AM
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iirc on 2nd gens the trim is not glued to the quarter windows. It just hooks behind it and clips in. It's still sketchy and damn near impossible to remove and reinstall intact though.
You remember correctly. If you roll the trim in and out juuuust so, you can do it. But more likely at least one clip will break.

The front window trim is attached with 14 little screws (I counted), and is easily removable once you carefully pull off the rubber weatherstrip -- taking care not to tear the rubber at the clips on the end! The problem with removing this trim is that the only thing keeping water out it is a thin foam-rubber gasket: Once you remove the trim, the gasket never seals again. The best thing I've found to fix that is removable window-caulking, which is only available in the fall.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRealTegger
You remember correctly. If you roll the trim in and out juuuust so, you can do it. But more likely at least one clip will break.

The front window trim is attached with 14 little screws (I counted), and is easily removable once you carefully pull off the rubber weatherstrip -- taking care not to tear the rubber at the clips on the end! The problem with removing this trim is that the only thing keeping water out it is a thin foam-rubber gasket: Once you remove the trim, the gasket never seals again. The best thing I've found to fix that is removable window-caulking, which is only available in the fall.
couldnt you just scrape the weatherstripping off the metal strip and get some new 1" foam weather stripping from home depot and replace it?
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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I stand corrected, the trim on the rear quarter glass is removable, unlike on the G3...
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...ystemcomp=List All&vinnoT=&trim=&trans=&view=normal

This is the windshield...
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...ystemcomp=List All&vinnoT=&trim=&trans=&view=normal

It looks like the trim on the hatch glass is also removable, [not on G3s].

So if you can remove all the trim, there is no reason to remove the glass. 94
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 10:00 AM
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Well i really was gunna just get safelite come remove the trim and windows. Ima try and buy all new trim and whatever i cant get idk what ima do.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 11:48 AM
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i just painted my 93 last year, was able to remove trim from quarter windows in one piece, and just taped the quarter glass off. AS for the back glass when the guy from the glass company took the window out it destroyed the seal around the glass and a seal at the top of the glass that is glued inbetween the glass and the frame. all of these were available from Acura an was around 100 bucks. windshield clips and trim were quite a bit more pricey, about 70. for each side and around a dollar a clip. got mine from Del-Ray Acura.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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I checked the 93 we have sitting in the shop and I would not attempt to remove any trim from the hatch, quarter glass and front windshield trim was easy. 94
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by B4RK3R
couldnt you just scrape the weatherstripping off the metal strip and get some new 1" foam weather stripping from home depot and replace it?
Yep, you can do that too.

The original foam is actually on a plastic backing, and it peels off in one shot.

The problem with using Home Depot weatherstripping is that you need to use light open-cell foam, and to shave it -- evenly -- down to 3/32-1/8" thickness. It's the evenness that's hard. I made a jig to hold the blade, then passed the foam underneath the blade to shave it down.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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I checked the 93 we have sitting in the shop and I would not attempt to remove any trim from the hatch, quarter glass and front windshield trim was easy. 94
If you mean that the quarter and windshield trim was easy, then you got lucky. The clips on both often break.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:07 AM
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I did not say clips would not break, I said removing the trim was easy.

It was the same with my 94, I was as carefull as I could be, but still managed to bust a few clips, I just went to PicknPull and got a bunch more along with "new" front windshield trim, the trim cost $5 and mounting hardware is free at PicknPull.

That's any mounting hardware, as long as you buy something you can have a bucket of mounting hardware for free. 94
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 06:39 AM
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I didn't break any of the clips on the windshield trim. You have to watch out for the polished corner pieces (90-91 specific), they are black on 92-93. They don't like to sit right after being removed. There's also a little rubber gasket behind it that rips easier then paper. In fact the corner pieces on my windshield are still removed because after reinstalling them they lifted up during highway driving, consequently lifting the rubber molding across the top. I am just thinking of letting safelite handle it since it needs to be removed anyway for a windshield replacement.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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The trims are actually installed at the same time the glass is installed, the butal that holds the glass also helps hold the trim, [trim clips], if you look, the clips with the "springy" legs on them sit in the butal, [pushes into the butal while it is still soft, if you look at the butal you will see the "dimples" and the problem is you can not get the clips to sit exactly the same again.

It was a guy at a window place that told me to trim the butal back and just run a bead of butal or black silicon along the trimmed butal and then install the trim, the clips will then push into the new butal, [or silicon] and once the new butal/silicon cures the trim will be tight. 94
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Just a small clarification here...

The quarter windows are bonded-in with the same urethane adhesive as that used on the windshield.

Butyl adhesive is not the same thing at all. Butyl is gummy, really really sticky, and stays that way forever.
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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It is what the window shop calls it, it is actually 3M Window-Weld and I looked on the pack and there is no urethane in it.

It is made of, are you ready...POLYBUTYLENE, ISOBUTYLENE-ISOPRENE POLYMER, CARBON BLACK and a few other things, but no urethane.

Now that's the 3M brand, other windshield adhesives my well be/have urethane. 94
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Old Mar 19, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fcm
It is what the window shop calls it, it is actually 3M Window-Weld and I looked on the pack and there is no urethane in it.

It is made of, are you ready...POLYBUTYLENE, ISOBUTYLENE-ISOPRENE POLYMER, CARBON BLACK and a few other things, but no urethane.
Evidently I was confusing your butyl compound with butyl tape, which is also used by auto glass shops (which is where I buy mine). Butyl tape was the only form of butyl I knew of, and its physical characteristics are as I described earlier. Butyl tape is unsuitable for fixing our quarter windows.

But hold on... I just checked 3M's site, and found this:
http://www.3m.com/product/informatio...-urethane.html
They're also calling this urethane stuff "Window Weld"...
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