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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Default Issues with separating upper ball joint to remove strut

Pretty much trying to save the disaster of the suspension set up of the previous owner who decided to be "hella flush" and do some dangerous things that would be similar to cutting springs but instead wasted the Eibach Ground Control set up by adjusting it and cutting the sleeve down so the spring could sit freely under the strut and about halfway from reaching the tophat. It's pretty bad. Drivers side strut removal and repair was easy but I hit a wall on the passengers side when I could not move the upper ball joint off to remove the strut. It was completely stuck, I tried using a pry bar and tapping it, tried pulling down and using my legs to push up on the top part of the joint to remove it and it wouldn't budge... I'm frustrated and out of ideas... if anyone has anything for me... PLEASE HELP. Thank you...

Car is 88 CRX Si
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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Smack the **** outta of with a hammer

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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGVEM^^ED6
Smack the **** outta of with a hammer

Ballpeen prefered
I literally tried to smack the **** out of it with the best angle I could and it barely budged...

I'd probably have to pull the fender off to get the best angle...

any other ideas?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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No just smack it with a hammer as said. Make sure your hitting the knuckle part and not the ball joint part
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 11:56 PM
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No just smack it with a hammer as said. Make sure your hitting the knuckle part and not the ball joint part
smack more downward or straight into the knuckle? I tried doing that and for some reason it wouldn't budge. I'll try again tomorrow. This is frustrating me. I know this car is going to be nothing short of a headache but at least the motor runs well.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:02 AM
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Try smacking it where the ball joint goes through but on the knuckle. I hit strait towards the knuckle not downwards. Get the biggest hammer you have and hit it a couple times as hard as you can
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:20 AM
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Torch and a pickle fork/balljoint separator they are $10 at harbor freight!
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:23 AM
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Torch and a pickle fork/balljoint separator they are $10 at harbor freight!
Have fun replacing your upper ball joint after doing it this way
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:28 AM
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Torch and a pickle fork/balljoint separator they are $10 at harbor freight!
Originally Posted by Dc4LsTeG
Have fun replacing your upper ball joint after doing it this way
I'll try the pickle fork but not the torch. I tried using some PB Blaster and WD40 to see if it could break anything loose while using the hammer.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:32 AM
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Don't use a pickle fork yet. Hit it hard with a hammer if you can't break it free see if you can find someone stronger. Most of the time pickle forks ruin the ball joints
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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Are you planning on saving the balljoints? If so brake clean them and repack them with grease and new dust boots or they will go to hell. I would start with light taps using the pickle fork at a few different angles should slide out good luck bro
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 01:13 AM
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Default Re: Issues with separating upper ball joint to remove strut

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Don't use a pickle fork yet. Hit it hard with a hammer if you can't break it free see if you can find someone stronger. Most of the time pickle forks ruin the ball joints
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Are you planning on saving the balljoints? If so brake clean them and repack them with grease and new dust boots or they will go to hell. I would start with light taps using the pickle fork at a few different angles should slide out good luck bro
Thanks for the help guys, I will try it and hopefully something works out. I'll let you guys know.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 01:22 AM
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I used a pickle fork on mine, it might tear the boot but a replacement boot wasn't too expensive for me.

Just went through the same thing on my CRX.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 05:35 AM
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use a bigger hammer.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Akkord2k1
It was completely stuck, I tried using a pry bar and tapping it, tried pulling down and using my legs to push up on the top part of the joint to remove it and it wouldn't budge...
absolutely none of these "methods" would ever work. so no wonder why youre having a hard time...

and when ppl suggest using a hammer, you dont hit up or down, you hit the side of the knuckle around the balljoint. the vibration is what knocks it loose.

or use a proper puller.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-crx-ef-civic-1988-1991-3/how-pop-off-balljoint-videos-1912773/
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Issues with separating upper ball joint to remove strut

iv never had a problem hitting the knuckle to get ball joints out. if it wont come out, keep hitting and hit harder.
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Old Mar 14, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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There really isnt one specific way to remove them some methods just work much easier and safer. I would just use the balljoint seperator then go from there..
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:32 AM
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im really curious as to why you think need to get the balljoint loose to remove the shocks ?
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Issues with separating upper ball joint to remove strut

also, where are you located ? if youre close by i can help you out for a small fee
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyson
absolutely none of these "methods" would ever work. so no wonder why youre having a hard time...

and when ppl suggest using a hammer, you dont hit up or down, you hit the side of the knuckle around the balljoint. the vibration is what knocks it loose.

or use a proper puller.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1912773
Originally Posted by janz3n
iv never had a problem hitting the knuckle to get ball joints out. if it wont come out, keep hitting and hit harder.
Thanks for all the help guys, I will be working on the car tomorrow and it should work out tomorrow. I'll let you guys know otherwise.


Originally Posted by Stunna MIKE
also, where are you located ? if youre close by i can help you out for a small fee
North Orange County, pretty far. Thanks for the offer but I think I should have it handled by tomorrow. Seems simple enough, just my first time working on older Honda suspension. I come from a Subaru background lol.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Stunna MIKE
im really curious as to why you think need to get the balljoint loose to remove the shocks ?
This ^

Remove 17mm nut and bolt from bottom of fork and lca. Remove 14mm bolt from top of fork. Remove fork. Remove both 14mm nuts from top of strut. Pull entire assembly out from the bottom. Done, without touching a single ball joint.

Installation is the reverse of removal.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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wait, yeah. lol. if youre just trying to remove the shock (not strut on a honda) then you shouldnt need to separate the balljoint at all. youre doing it all wrong.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 12:30 PM
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Default Re: Issues with separating upper ball joint to remove strut

Originally Posted by crvtectim
This ^

Remove 17mm nut and bolt from bottom of fork and lca. Remove 14mm bolt from top of fork. Remove fork. Remove both 14mm nuts from top of strut. Pull entire assembly out from the bottom. Done, without touching a single ball joint.

Installation is the reverse of removal.
I meant fork... but I didn't correct myself since everyone pretty much understood what I meant.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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but you dont need to separate the balljoint in order to remove the fork..........
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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Lol, what just happened?
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