I want to remove the intake cover on my 03 s2000. When I look at the cover the thermostat is screwed into it. Where would I put the thermostat after I remove the box?

 

By thermostat do you mean IAT sensor?

 

I believe so. It is connected to the box itself.

 

ur stupid

 

That was helpful.

 

oh lord. haha

 

step away from the car...do not attempt to do any work to it

 

u might as well remove the whole box and let the filter and tube hang there like a limp dick and tell all ur friends its a shortram

 

Well that wouldn't be practical. Would the cold air intake that I want to put in fit with the box in the way?

 

^ wtf r u talking about dude?

 

Would a cold air intake fit in the car if the filter box is there?

 

seriously, dont do any work to the car...you are obviously not competent enough to be wrenching on this...not trying to be a dick, just letting you know before you fukc up your car

 

I realize that. I was hoping for some help since I got this car less than a month ago. Just looking for help that's all.

 

Don't remove your airbox lid, you will kill off power because you are allowing heatsoak to be present....yeah it sounds cool but it isn't worth it....

 

it's just plastic. unscrew what is needed then put it back on. didn't you ever open **** when your a kid! c'mon brah

 

Meh, for the sake of a little heat soak when sitting still, I'd say it's worth it Once moving I can't see there being a huge change in power.

 

haha, although I had a dick response like similar to boots and black s2k... but, figured I might help once.

Terminology.
Thermostat - This is located in the upper radiator hose tract. It's mounted inside the thermostat housing. This will not interfere whatsoever with the intake, intake tube, or air box.

Intake - This is the large metal object bolted to the right side of the engine (when facing the engine). It's manages air flow into the cylinder head. It has a throttle body attached. This is NOT the air filter and box surrounding it.

Air box - This is the large rectangular box at the front of the engine bay. It contains the air filter, and helps with resonance, keeps heat from the air filter, and helps with air flow to the air filter.

IAT - Intake Air Temp. valve. This is NOT bolted to the air box, as someone incorrectly identified. The IAT is bolted to the intake manifold.

Air Control Vacuum Valve - This is the sensor that's screwed into the air box. It's a part of the emissions system, specifically the air pump system. This can be removed if you do an air pump delete.


If you're doing a cold air mod (useless), you would remove the stock air box, and zip tie the ACVV somewhere. The best air filter/air box is the stock one. There have been numerous dyno runs with open air elements vs. the stock box, and the stock box always makes the most power, because the open air elements LOSE power.

 

Think about what you posted, headsoak affects power, its been dyno proven; 200whp vs 190whp is a huge change, heatsoak affects the whole powerband not just idle

 

Oh I understand, but that's on a dyno with a fan aimed at the radiator. What would be more beneficial is for some one to monitor IAT's on the same day etc. comparing with the lid on or off driving at say 40 - 70 mph

 

The engine gives off heat, no matter how much air you get in the engine bay it cant stop the effects of heatsoak. You can only minimize it by shielding heat way. The airbox lid is a shield for the intake as well. If you remove it, the intake sucks all the heat the engine gives off. If you leave it on, youre blocking hot air out, while still being able to suck cold fresh air in. my dyno reference wasnt about power numbers, but about how heatsoak bothers the whole powerband

 

just stop

 

Why, we are having a discussion that is related to the affects or removing the lid off the intake. We're not arguing or name calling or anything of the sort. It is the sort of discussion that this site use to have. Instead we have three pages of how a guy took a sharpie to his front lip.


[QUOTE=The engine gives off heat, no matter how much air you get in the engine bay it cant stop the effects of heatsoak. You can only minimize it by shielding heat way. The airbox lid is a shield for the intake as well. If you remove it, the intake sucks all the heat the engine gives off. If you leave it on, youre blocking hot air out, while still being able to suck cold fresh air in. my dyno reference wasnt about power numbers, but about how heatsoak bothers the whole powerband[/QUOTE]

Well it depends on how much air circulation there is with in the engine bay. I am not disageeing with you, and I support your logic. It would just be nice to see some numbers regarding IAT's when moving.

Some one with an AEM EMS or similar should be able to chime in here...

 

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/4050...1#entry8111869

 

So according to that report about a 10* difference. Any engineers know how to convert this into hp lost? I am guessing 2-5 hp at most?

Thanks for the link!

 

everyone just relax.. let him do what he wants and learn for him self... don't get all worked up over it... let him make the mistakes and learn for him self.. some people can't learn from others mistakes they learn from their own..