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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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im putting a jdm b16a in my brothers 00 civic ex. what connectors am i gonna have to re-pin?, which ecu will work for passing nys inspection?, which engine mounts will need to be re-used and which will need to be bought?, to retain a/c which brackets will need to be bought?

i have done other swaps such as a jdm obd2 b18c type r into an 93 del sol, and jdm obd1 f22b into a 96 accord, so im familiar with engine swaps just not this particular one. im looking to do this the most economical way possible. this car will never see a track and will mostly remain stock so i dont need hasport mounts or anything. just looking to wake the car up a bit with a b series motor so i dont plan on going crazy.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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is there any ecus that will not require a jumper harness that will work with the jdm ob1 engine? 00 civic si or 98 integra gsr ecu maybe? i know im gonna have to wire in a second o2 sensor to pass inspection but what other wiring harness modifications need to be done?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 01:32 AM
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It should already have a 2nd 02. You can use the P2T from the 99-00 Si. You'll have to bypass the CKF but it's no big deal. Reuse your EX injectors. Rewire the distributor plugs. Also the alternator will need to be from an OBD2 b series to plug in or rewire the plug.

http://www.hamotorsports.com/obd2-al...1-harness.html

http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm

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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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whats a p2k? so ill have to repin the distributor connector, and the alternator connector but why do you say to reuse the ex injectors? couldnt i just repin the connectors and use the ones that are on the obd1 b16?

what am i gonna need for an ecu thats not gonna require a jumper harness?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 11:50 AM
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and as for mounts, what can i re use from the original car and new b16, and what am i gonna have to get?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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o p2k ecu? cuz i ordered an ecu for a 00 civic si. this is what i need right?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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yes the 99-00 si ecu will work and you will need the rear t bracket from a 99-00 si as well, rest you will be able to reuse. To retain ac by using the d series compressor you will need a P54 ac bracket off a del sol vtec.
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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Default Re: obd1 engine swap into 00 civic questions???

Or one off a crv. for the a/c part.
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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yes the 99-00 si ecu will work and you will need the rear t bracket from a 99-00 si as well, rest you will be able to reuse. To retain ac by using the d series compressor you will need a P54 ac bracket off a del sol vtec.
do you have a pic of that ac bracket? cuz the engine is a jdm b16 model and i dont know what it came out of. maybe ill get lucky and have it be a del sol.
can i use the compressor that came on the new motor or will the ac lines not bolt up?
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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so everything to make this engine work is:
si ecu
si t-bracket
integra shift linkage(i have that laying around from previous swap)
si axles
ckp bypass
repin distributor connector
repin alternator connector
ac bracket
swap over injectors

anything im forgetting?
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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I am curious on what type of an engine I can put into my 2000 ex civic? The transmission is fine but the engine is shot.
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rawze
I am curious on what type of an engine I can put into my 2000 ex civic? The transmission is fine but the engine is shot.
dont jack my thread no one will answer your questions... start your own its quite easy
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do you have a pic of that ac bracket? cuz the engine is a jdm b16 model and i dont know what it came out of. maybe ill get lucky and have it be a del sol.
can i use the compressor that came on the new motor or will the ac lines not bolt up?
if the block is stamped B16A its an sir-II, and if you were to buy the P54 ac bracket you can use all of the d series ac parts including the compressor it will bolt right up
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 04:50 AM
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the ac brackets have the numbers stamped on them, if your b16 came with a bracket it is most likely a P30
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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you say all i need is just the t bracket for the rear mount and ac bracket and that everything else is the same....

according to this diagram of a civic ex: http://www.myhondapartsstore.com/myh...ystemcomp=List All&vinnoT=&trim=&trans=&view=normal

and this one of a civic si: http://www.myhondapartsstore.com/myh...ystemcomp=List All&vinnoT=&trim=&trans=&view=normal

there is quite a few different part numbers. do i need only the ac bracket and t bracket or do i need every part number that is different between the two pics?
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 11:37 PM
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and is there any extra sensors or emissions crap that needs to be wired up differently? obviously other than a second O2 sensor.
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Originally Posted by typerturbo29
if the block is stamped B16A its an sir-II, and if you were to buy the P54 ac bracket you can use all of the d series ac parts including the compressor it will bolt right up
Not all B16A's are SiR-II motors. Educate yourself a little.
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Originally Posted by jbpnoman
Not all B16A's are SiR-II motors. Educate yourself a little.
you are correct, i assumed because its the only one i have ever delt with.
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Old Mar 10, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jbpnoman
Not all B16A's are SiR-II motors. Educate yourself a little.
motors are electric, engines are gasoline operated. educate yourself a little. lol jk just bustin ur *****. can you tell me how to identify whether it's an sir engine? I doubt it is cuz I picked it up for only $2000 like 2 years ago with tranny and ecu. wait can u tell from the jdm ecu? let me know man, thanks.
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Old Mar 10, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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The ECU may or may not have come in the same car that the motor came out of, so that doesn't really help. The better bet would be the head.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...fhead14er.jpg/

Look for that stamp on your head. Post up the year code in it.
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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ok I'm just a couple days from diving into this. to make it more plug and play which alternator will I need? nippon denso or Mitsubishi?
also since I'm gonna be re-pining the connector for the distributor, what wire colors will I need to match up?
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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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JDM CPS is in Dizzy get ready for CEL
I followed this Thread for my CPS fix: http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm

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Old Mar 15, 2012 | 06:20 PM
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I know about the ckp bypass which will fix the cel problem but if u look at the wire colors and their functions at the top, there is 2 wires on the obd1 distributor that are "n/a" on the obd2 distributor. r these wires just left with nothing going to them? it says they r rpm lead wires, and of they aren't hooked to anything then where is it gonna get the tach signal from for the tachometer?

someone please help!
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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Its said on the bottom "The OBD2b small plug dizzy does not have RPM lead signal wires because this is directly controlled by the ecu."
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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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yeah but the next sentence, which hardly makes sense, says that these wires will need to be added when converting to obd1 or obd2a or obd2b. so if these wires need to be added, then where do I wire them into? I don't think they can just be left there not hooked to anything?
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