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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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98 civic.
I've got the ES bushings ready to go in, and now, I can't get the orginal bushings to come out.
I've been beating on it for an hour. I've already called around looking for the replacement, noone carrys it.

Does anyone have any tips? Is there another option then buying the tool? $150+

I'd like to avoid removing the trailing arms if at all possible. I don't want to mess with the drums.
Basicly I just want these ****ers out of my car.

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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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You can cut them out with a torch. Other than that or using the proper tool it's hard to get them out without removing the trailing arms, Btw you don't have to mess with the drums, just disconnect the parking brake cable at the handle.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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You can cut them out with a torch. Other than that or using the proper tool it's hard to get them out without removing the trailing arms, Btw you don't have to mess with the drums, just disconnect the parking brake cable at the handle.
Thanks, that is true. How do I bleed the drum after I put it back togher?


I've never touched drums before. lol
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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On the back side of the backing plate you'll see a bleeder screw. As far as drum brakes go those civics are pretty simple to work on.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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Ok, I'll have to take a look at them.

if I pulled them out, would I need to bleed all 4?
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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if I pulled them out, would I need to bleed all 4?
Yes.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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For install get go to the hardware store get a threaded rod and largerthen the hole on the trailing arm washers and a couple nuts all For about 10 bucks it's as easy as that.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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Yes.
Damn.

Thank you.

My dad said no, but I honestly have no clue.
Originally Posted by SKAVENGER88
For install get go to the hardware store get a threaded rod and largerthen the hole on the trailing arm washers and a couple nuts all For about 10 bucks it's as easy as that.
Install is not the issue.

The bushings are already pressed into the OEM rings with the "dog bone" in aswell.
I had a spare set of bushings laying around that I used.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Kinda do the same for getting then out us a washer big enough to go on the outside of the bushing but small enough to pass through the hole get a larger dia. Pipe just longer and wider then the bushing hole use the threaded rod and tighten the nuts together and it should pop out. Use an impact and it willbe super easy.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Maybe....

Just had a brain fart.

Find a puller tool, that is a pusher type. Remove the ES bushing from the ring.

Use that ring, and the pusher tool to push the buhings out. The way I am thinking, it will be the same things as that $150-200 x-tractor thing.

Anyone have an opinon on that?
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Might work. I drew up a diagram that might help. Excuse my terrible drawing skills
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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lol. That's awesome man.


I think I saw a DIY with a guy using something like to press in the new ES bushing bushings. Looked intresting.

I'm going to give that good thought, I appreciate it! Thank you both.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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No problem. I've changed a few of these on my fiends cars and this works the best for on car replacements.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SKAVENGER88
No problem. I've changed a few of these on my fiends cars and this works the best for on car replacements.
That is the weird thing, I've done them twice before, I've never had this kind of trouble.


I've always been able to get them out with 3-4 good smacks with a hammer.

I'm hitting mine so hard I bent one of the sides of the bushing ring thing. Granted mine are the orginals with 220k+ on them, but damn.
It deffinetly shows too, I only looked at the passanger side bushing, and it's ****ed.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Some are easy and some r a nightmare I had one dropped the trailing arm. Broke a brake line and had to saw torch and beat them out with a screw driver.
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Try inserting a hack saw blade through the hole in the bushing then re-attaching the blade to the saw on the other side.
Then cut down through the rubber and metal ring.
Pull out the blade and repeat once or twice more around the ring, then wack it with a hammer or pry it out with a screwdriver
...or pony up and get the puller tool
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EGLivin
This ^^^^^^ is how a real man does it. Just make sure not to cut into the trailing arm. And when you do because you will. Use a file to soften it back up so it does not tear up your new ES bushings. Make sure to use the lube as well.
Really?! A real man? come on'.

The ES bushing does not touch the trailing arm, it sits inisde a ring. that ring is attached to the factory bushing. I have already burned a spare bushing out, and pressed the ES bushing into that.

All I need to do is remove the old bushing in one peice, not burning/cutting it out.


If I wanted to do it that way I would already be done, and this thread would not be here.
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 12:41 PM
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i had the whole trailing arm off and pressed mine in with a vise. why would u be worried about messing the old bushing up by burning it out its so much easier to do with a torch. ive also have busted most of the bushing out and cleaned it up using a small carbide bit to chew the rest out.
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Trailing arm bushing replacement, tips?

I used PB blaster and a BFH for some I picked up in the junk yard and they popped right out.

Harbor freight has a small press that is about 70 bucks. I love that thing.
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by apexi_rsx
i had the whole trailing arm off and pressed mine in with a vise. why would u be worried about messing the old bushing up by burning it out its so much easier to do with a torch. ive also have busted most of the bushing out and cleaned it up using a small carbide bit to chew the rest out.
I'm not worried about the bushings, but sitting there burning, and cleaning out another bushing seems like a waste when i've already got the whole bushing assembly ready to go in the car.... I've got access to a map gas tourch, it's what i used on the others.

I'm honestly tired of ****ing with it. This is what I am going to do.

Cut old bushing out, trim rubber off, wire brush on my drill. Hopefully that will get the rubber out fairly quick. And then find a way to get the ES bushing into that ring. I killed a prefectly good set of bushings, and it bit me in the ***. lol

Originally Posted by speedjunkie_g35
I used PB blaster and a BFH for some I picked up in the junk yard and they popped right out.

Harbor freight has a small press that is about 70 bucks. I love that thing.
I tired 3 different hammers, and punches all around it. These suckers aren't moving.

I have a full size HF press in the garage. It's works well, but can be a pain sometimes.
Definetly glad I had it for the other bushings!! A bench vice wasn't even coming close to doing it.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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I ended up just cutting the old bushing out of the trailing.
What a pain.

I will say, useing a wire wheel is a must!! it worked very well when trying to take jugs of rubber off, and get to bare metal.
I only got one done, before I was just tired of doing it, going to get the other done this afternoon.

Also, I am buying the damn tool if I ever have to do this again. **** fighting these stupid bushings.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Also, I am buying the damn tool if I ever have to do this again. **** fighting these stupid bushings.
I know man, and it's so easy with the press tool. I'm lucky my friend has one at work
and lets me use it - I wouldn't want to buy one either but they are worth it.

A couple weeks ago this came up in here and one member said that some places rent the tool (don't
know if he said auto part stores or not). That would be the way to go.

Glad you got it taken care of



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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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I know man, and it's so easy with the press tool. I'm lucky my friend has one at work
and lets me use it - I wouldn't want to buy one either but they are worth it.

A couple weeks ago this came up in here and one member said that some places rent the tool (don't
know if he said auto part stores or not). That would be the way to go.

Glad you got it taken care of


Speaking of that, I just got off the phone with my buddy. His dad has the tool sitting in his garage. To bad, he's 45+miles away. lol

Really? I called around for a while yesterday, and my dad did too. We couldn't come up with anything. Hell, chick at baxters autoparts had no clue what I was talking about.

That made me mad.

Thanks! I owe it all to Coors light!
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Too bad you didn't find a member on here and rent the tool.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by motegicivic
Too bad you didn't find a member on here and rent the tool.
It's whatever, I don't care anymore....


Also, i forgot to add, I was able to push the new bushing into the trailing arm by hand, no need for a c-clamp, or that bolt and washer thing.
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