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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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Hey everyone I bought a block from another Honda-tech member on here a while back for my roomates CRX project. Long story short roommate crashed his CRX so we are selling the block.

Now that it is up for sale again I'm getting a lot of questions like how do I know the block is sleeved etc. How can I prove the block is sleeved

I believe its s RS sleeved 84.5mm LS b18 block

People have told me the marks in between the sleeves shows that it has been sleeved. I can also measure it with a digital caliper so you can see the size but then people say someone could have bored a stock block.

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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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That looks factory to me. Sorry but I think you got ripped off.

Is the surface on the outside of the sleeves smooth/flat?
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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That doesn't look factory lol look at the lines between cylinders that's he individual sleeves where they meet. Not sure on brand but it's sleeved
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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have a nice day

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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
That doesn't look factory lol look at the lines between cylinders that's he individual sleeves where they meet. Not sure on brand but it's sleeved
This is what I heard if you look at a stock block you do not see this line in between cylinders
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but on a stock sleeve if it were to be bored to 84.5mm wouldn't the thickness of where the sleeves meet be extremely thin?
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vwbased
If the outside diameter of the cylinder at the top is iron and not aluminum, it has been sleeved. Use a magnet to be sure.
I will try this thanks
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Slacker93eg
Correct me if I'm wrong but on a stock sleeve if it were to be bored to 84.5mm wouldn't the thickness of where the sleeves meet be extremely thin?
Yup

thanks for all the posts even though its a friday night

I'm still at work =(
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 11:36 PM
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I can't really tell by looking at those pictures but looking at the block from underneath i get the slight impression it may have been. Also remember that the sleeves maybe dry and not wet so the magnet trick may not be correct. Have you got a local machine shop that does a lot of Honda stuff you could take it to ? There opinion would be best really.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rich7777
I can't really tell by looking at those pictures but looking at the block from underneath i get the slight impression it may have been. Also remember that the sleeves maybe dry and not wet so the magnet trick may not be correct. Have you got a local machine shop that does a lot of Honda stuff you could take it to ? There opinion would be best really.
I said something assuming I was talking about the correct person, but I should have confirmed it before sticking my foot in it. Sorry rich777. You have been a supporter, not a hater.


It is definitely sleeved and it does look like an RS Machine job so if that is what you were told I would believe it.

Last edited by trickeng; Feb 18, 2012 at 10:15 AM. Reason: OOPS!!!!
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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rich man u sure are gettin your ***** busted this week buddy. dont sweat it we know ur good ****. i read through your thread, the only reason i didnt post was because i had nothing intelligent to add lol. keep up the good work.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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common courtesy and manners are becoming more and more scarce these days. dont forget u get to talk to us wonderful canadians too!!
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 08:47 AM
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I like Canada to lol, i ment more that area of the planet. I'm actually dying to visit Toronto
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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Measure the bore. Stock LS sleeves cannot be bored to 84.5...
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by trickeng
HAHAHA!!! You can't tell???? For someone who is so knowledgable, follows the teachings of the shodan and can give your educated opinion on engine building and whether a process will or will not help (i.e. the css process you were so vocal on) your just a little boy who has actually never seen the inside of a honda motor. HAHAHAHA!!!!!! I love when keyboard ninja's show there real knowledge.
Don't be an *******. If you have something helpful to post, do it, but be an adult about it.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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Sorry Schister66 if i went a bit to far. He started it, there was no need what so ever for him to post that. Me posting that picture was childish.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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No worries...you didnt do anything wrong.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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I edited my stupid comment. Sorry rich, thought you were someone else. Back on track!!!!
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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It's ok man, i will delete my posts and i hope nothing i put effects your business in anyway . Please be more careful when posting comments like that up as the person may not be as forgiving as myself .
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 7rrivera7
Measure the bore. Stock LS sleeves cannot be bored to 84.5...
Already did its around 84-85 mm

Thanks for all the posts

I feel like a missed something posts are all edited now lol
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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Glad to see people still mature to admit when they are wrong.. very hard to find peoplewho are willing to work thingsout.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
Glad to see people still mature to admit when they are wrong...
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
That doesn't look factory lol look at the lines between cylinders that's he individual sleeves where they meet. Not sure on brand but it's sleeved
Damn you people!! Do you not realize where he said he is selling it!!?! GODDAMNIT!!! lol. I was trying to get this thing for cheap! lol
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 12:39 PM
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That's definitely a sleeved block, but it looks to be ATLEAST 85+mm already. MY RS machine block was at 85mm and the sleeves looked thicker(between cylinders) than that one. Also, my block had THREE "RS" stamps on the top of the block, two on the transmission side, and one right behind cylinder #1(not sure if that makes sense?) anyhow OP, I think you should reconsider buying this block if you're going to be boosting. At 85mm+, there isnt much room for mistakes or rebuilds. I guess unless you're getting it for a crackhead price, but even then, look for something smaller in bore and maybe something that you KNOW FOR SURE who the manufacture of the sleeve job is.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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yay were all a big happy H-T family again lol.
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