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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Hello new to this forums and have a question regarding my paint on my 1999 Honda Civic. Before i spend 2000.00 dollars to repaint it i would like to know if it is even required. After 12 years my paint finally has oxidation from the so-cal weather i guess. My question is, the overall paint on the car is very good and looks brand new except for the trunk and a little bit on the side of the trunk have oxidation. The roof is perfect, however the above the rear window there is a bit of fade on both sides. Do i need to repaint the entire vehicle? or is it possible to fix these spots? If i did repaint it, i would repaint it forest green. Suggestions would be great. And for anyone located in the Los Angeles area the shop i will be going to is Tho's Auto Collision in Westminister.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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Classic clear coat failure. If you find a good painter, they could paint just the damaged areas and blend out, but I bet you'd have a hard time finding someone willing to do this. It is quite likely that more clearcoat will fail soon. The spots above the doors might respond well to some buffing love, but it is hard to know without a proper paint gauge and a way to feel the paint.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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yeah just get the deck lid painted and blend out to the upper 1/4 than up the c-piller. it will cost way less. if you have front end paint damage than I'm sure you can get a blend job there also.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 04:16 PM
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Paint the whole car...i do base/clear for around 1200....... u cant match new paint with 15 yr old paint
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 04:29 PM
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Price it around, if you plan on keeping it and it runs good paint it, not worth trying to fix it, if it was like just the hood or just trunk yo can do panels, in your case you need to paint the car to make it look good.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 04:40 PM
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Paint the whole car...i do base/clear for around 1200....... u cant match new paint with 15 yr old paint
Yes you can. It is challenging with metallics, but possible.
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 08:58 PM
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u cant match new paint with 15 yr old paint
Fail.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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Fail.
who would even wana try to tackle that challenge not to mention the rest of the car that you didnt update with new paint will be likely to oxidize just like the parts hes fixing. and by the looks of it theres a pretty good portion of the car that needs repainting. might as well just get it all done right the first time. and also this is your chance to paint it any color you want Si Blue, black, gunmetal gray etc.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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who would even wana try to tackle that challenge not to mention the rest of the car that you didnt update with new paint will be likely to oxidize just like the parts hes fixing. and by the looks of it theres a pretty good portion of the car that needs repainting. might as well just get it all done right the first time. and also this is your chance to paint it any color you want Si Blue, black, gunmetal gray etc.

Oh yes, clearly the only way to make the car look presentable is by throwing about 3 grand at it.

Blending isn't that hard, color changes are.

Spots that are not exposed to constant direct sunlight are less likely to have the clearcoat fail. That's why you never see clearcoat failure on peoples doors or rocker panels. If the blending is done well and properly, he won't have to worry about it.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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who would even wana try to tackle that challenge not to mention the rest of the car that you didnt update with new paint will be likely to oxidize just like the parts hes fixing. and by the looks of it theres a pretty good portion of the car that needs repainting. might as well just get it all done right the first time. and also this is your chance to paint it any color you want Si Blue, black, gunmetal gray etc.
And what about the engine bay and the door pillars? Seems odd to leave that the stock green with the rest of the car blue. Good idea but that is even more money.

In my opinion blending is an option although I personally have not seen anyone able to do it perfectly at any given angle or sun glare. At some point you will notice that something changed. I will say that the newer technologies make this harder to detect but if you look closely you will see a blend especially when you compare metal to urethane. For some odd reason those two materials take paint differently after they have already been sprayed from factory.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Oh yes, clearly the only way to make the car look presentable is by throwing about 3 grand at it.

Blending isn't that hard, color changes are.

Spots that are not exposed to constant direct sunlight are less likely to have the clear coat fail. That's why you never see clear coat failure on peoples doors or rocker panels. If the blending is done well and properly, he won't have to worry about it.
lol, all im saying is that a reputable painter would charge a good chunk of change to do the painting of about 20% of the car and then the task of trying to blend new paint in with faded 12 year old paint.. the entire trunk is peeling clear, there are visible gashes in the paint on the rear bumper(unless its some reflection trickery), there's other significant spot of peeling, and the car has the stock clear coat/paint from 12-14 years ago. if it was newer paint from lets say a 2008 civic then id say sure blend. its only a matter of time before the hood, roof, top of doors starts to peel as well especially in the environment the OP stated. not to mention you will always be able to see the blending no matter how well the new paint was blended. and who cares what color the engine bay is Tuners do mismatched aftermarket colors all the time lol. and even if ur not a tuner, it wont matter anyways bro. if Ur spending money you might as well do it up real thugna$tyyyyy lol
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 08:51 PM
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And what about the engine bay and the door pillars? Seems odd to leave that the stock green with the rest of the car blue. Good idea but that is even more money.

In my opinion blending is an option although I personally have not seen anyone able to do it perfectly at any given angle or sun glare. At some point you will notice that something changed. I will say that the newer technologies make this harder to detect but if you look closely you will see a blend especially when you compare metal to urethane. For some odd reason those two materials take paint differently after they have already been sprayed from factory.
or he could repaint it the same color doesn't matter, i reread his post and he said that he was going to repaint it the same color anyways. just giving some ideas.
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by joeshmo

Oh yes, clearly the only way to make the car look presentable is by throwing about 3 grand at it.

Blending isn't that hard, color changes are.

Spots that are not exposed to constant direct sunlight are less likely to have the clearcoat fail. That's why you never see clearcoat failure on peoples doors or rocker panels. If the blending is done well and properly, he won't have to worry about it.
and in the top picture, i think you can see how bad the oxidization is. you can see it start halfway up the rear Pillar. or im just a little too ****ed up
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Old Feb 20, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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you should only need to repaint the area's were the clear coat is oxidized. color will only be needed where the basecoat was exposed or sanded through, and about two coats of clear maybe three (if needed)

buff the rest of the car, cut the larger scratches out with 2,000 grit wet.

thats all you should need, unless you have body damage you want fixed
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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you can try to buff the car maye that will help ?
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by streetcreation8
you can try to buff the car maye that will help ?
when the clear breaks down/flakes away, cutting and buffing will not help because the base coat is exposed. a few of the pictures shows the clear failing and pealing back.

in other area's where the clear is dull but still intact, yes it will help
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