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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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Im not getting any spark, the fuel pump isnt priming...no power is going to it.
Ive replaced the main relay and even put it into a friends car and it worked fine. I also put my ecu into a friends car it also worked fine. The CEL stays solid when the key is turned on. I have also sanded down where the themostat is grounded. all fuses are good...pretty stumped, any ideas?
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Double check 15A hood fuse 44 and 15A dash fuse 13 to see if they are blown.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 03:55 AM
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I have done that about 10 times...they both are good
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wtfisvtec??
I have done that about 10 times...they both are good
Click the fuses link in my signature. Do those two installed fuses have battery voltage at both top test tabs.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 04:56 AM
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Yes i have checked those. Both tabs also have voltage
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 06:59 AM
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The main relay gets voltage from fuses 44 and 13. Verify that the main relay connector gets voltage on both of those main relay connector terminals by shorting those terminals to the fuel pump terminal to see whether the fuel pump runs.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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44 and 13 both have 12 volts on them. What do u mean by shorting them
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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What do u mean by shorting them
Use a jumper wire to connect the indicated terminal pairs in the unplugged main relay connector.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:28 AM
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Ok I did that fuel pump kicked on and I have fuel pressure
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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Did it work for both tests?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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Yes. I check voltage to the plug that goes to the dizzy also and had voltage but im not getting spark. Could a bad dizzy be the problem of all of this?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:04 PM
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Yes.
Reconnect the main relay plug and then unplug ECU connector A. Turn the key to ON(II) and then short the A16 terminal in the ECU connector to ground. Does the fuel pump run?


Could a bad dizzy be the problem of all of this?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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what is the a16 terminal
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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Grn/Yel wire at A16:

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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No it doesn't turn on but I can hear clicking under the hood somewhere
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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Where under the hood do you hear clicking? Are you sure you're grounding the A16 wire?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Also just put a friends ecu in and still nothin

Tested wrong one. 1 sec

No it still does not kick on

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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Do you have an OBD1 ECU?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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Yes
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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At what point did you think it would be a bad idea to mention this important tidbit of information?

For OBD1, the Grn/Yel wire pins to A7 and A8 in ECU connector A:

http://www.phearable.net/tech/wiring...schematics.gif

With the key in ON(II), redo the grounding test with each of those two terminals. Does the pump run?
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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ok ill give it a shot tomorrow
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:44 AM
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Just tried it. Nothing happened

Anything else?

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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wtfisvtec??
Just tried it. Nothing happened
No click? Just nothing?
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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No noise at all
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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Did you try both A7 and A8?
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