Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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Default Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Hey guys I just joined the forums and i have been lurking around here and alot of other honda forums for a long time now but i never found the answer to my questions so i decided to join and post.

What is so special about the k20? Why does everyone swap to it? Does anyone have a diagram of the engine? How its put together etc..? Thanks and please dont hate, I am trying to join you guys.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

k-series is the shizzle my nizzle..

btw,its not only k20,there's also k24..
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cetcivic
k-series is the shizzle my nizzle..

btw,its not only k20,there's also k24..
ok and what is so good about them?


and sorry guys i posted in the wrong section...
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

you will never join us
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Nothing, it's just a 4 cylinder...
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

i donno i tend to see more gsr swaps than anything. but it prob has to do with the fact its one of the newer engines and produces the most power from the factory or atleast i think(someone correct me if im wrong since im not a k series fanboy)
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

b series (regular vtec)
f series (regular vtec)
k series (regular vtec + cam phasing)

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=27766
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 05:22 AM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

K20 (newest ones) has the most power and torque (i think torque since it's 2L, but maybe not more than H series since they're 2.2L) than most of the other Honda 4cyl, right out of the box. It has a VTEC head, so it flows like crazy.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 06:00 AM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

They have the best flowing heads, even the ones that are not "full VTEC" (meaning vtec on only intake camshaft)
They have larger dispacement than the B-series
They have huge aftermarkett support
They have "intelegent VTEC" where you can tune cam overlap and optimize this overlap (someone can elaborate more here)
They are very new and incorporate innovations in many other areas as well IE: stronger internalls, specifically the sleeves, but lets not forget the fuel injectors are also newer technology as well.

Downside... cost A LOT... but this will come down in time. Im a b-series guy, and probably always will be, but i do respect what the K-series platform brings to the table... although i still think the fastest car (turbocharged) is still a b-series.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

so where would i get a k20 engine and all the parts to build it, and what would be the best matching transmission? cause i know the stock wont be able to hold the power, and it will be for a 92-95 hatch
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

a full k20 swap with matching trans should hold quite a bit of power (people have done 500's easy)
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Originally Posted by BigMike0147
a full k20 swap with matching trans should hold quite a bit of power (people have done 500's easy)
or actually can i just do a k20 swap and use the stock trans and make it's internals stronger? i want to make like around 300hp, i want to build a car that i can have fun with and that can keep up with evo's and sti's
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Its the newest dual cam 4cyl engine series released from Honda...basically the new-age replacement for the B series. Its better in almost every way...aside from cost
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 10:28 AM
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The trans should be good enough to hold a lot of power from the factory. You just would probably need to upgrade the clutch before you put it in.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Originally Posted by fmars62
or actually can i just do a k20 swap and use the stock trans and make it's internals stronger? i want to make like around 300hp, i want to build a car that i can have fun with and that can keep up with evo's and sti's
If that's all you're shooting for, I wouldn't waste the money on a K.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Originally Posted by crvtectim
If that's all you're shooting for, I wouldn't waste the money on a K.
Then what should i go with? The 92-95's have a dx right? Should i do a b swap? Idk im new to hondas and tryin to get into the game
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

u can do a turbo or supercharged b series for half the cost of a stock k swap. and make 300 easy
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Originally Posted by b18cya94
u can do a turbo or supercharged b series for half the cost of a stock k swap. and make 300 easy
Damn, that sounds awesome! Point me in the right direction, i wanna go turbo, then what setup should i go with?
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

id say realistically that u could do a nice b18c swap and nice turbo setup for the same price of a stock k swap. on most k swaps u can expect anywhere from $7-12k for a complete turn key setup. u have to have custom everything for the k swap.. b series bolts right in with very little mods. thats my 2 cents. do lots of research before u buy.. good luck
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Originally Posted by b18cya94
id say realistically that u could do a nice b18c swap and nice turbo setup for the same price of a stock k swap. on most k swaps u can expect anywhere from $7-12k for a complete turn key setup. u have to have custom everything for the k swap.. b series bolts right in with very little mods. thats my 2 cents. do lots of research before u buy.. good luck
ok thanks for your imput, i really appreciate it. and yeah ive been doing research nonstop. but if i do the b18c turbo swap like you suggested, can my transmission and axles handle the power? what else would i have to change?
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

u need to upgrade the diff.. and clutch.. and axles.. all the parts are availble..
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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ok but where are the parts availible.....? i need websites so i can compare and start pricing.

and here is the hatch im looking at, but the guy is asking way to much, i know i have to look at it and test dive but what do you guys think it's worth? heres what the ad says:

Here is my 1994 Honda civic si hatchback. Eg hatchback with original sohc VTEC 1.6 4 cyl motor. This car is 5 speed manual transmission as all si models were. Hard to believe yes but 58,000 original miles. Adult owned. I am the 2nd owner. You will not find a cleaner 94 civic. Serious inquiries only.

Car has:

New paint job done in march.
16" mb graphite rims
Brand new bf Goodrich kdw tires
AEM cold air intake
$800 sound system
New ignition (oem)
New alternator
And more etc..



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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

New paint job = wrecked/rusted out... Walk away.

K-series is just the new H-series = a fad

The B-series will always be the "go to" engine.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Noob question, what is so special about the k20?

Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
New paint job = wrecked/rusted out... Walk away.

K-series is just the new H-series = a fad

The B-series will always be the "go to" engine.
you really think i should walk away? i dont have much experience with hondas, do people who say got it painted, does that usually mean something was wrong? like u said rust or wrecked?
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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Yea, that add has sketchy written all over it. 58K miles yet needed all those new parts? What's his asking price? And personally, I'd tell him to knock off $800 and keep his system.
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