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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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Default OBD2 piggyback datalogging/blackbox etc? whats good

i ve seen those around ebay and other online stores but never paid much attention to them since i never had an obd2 car.

what is the proper name for them?

and what would be a good not too expensive solution to monitor my wifes daily driver car( 00 integra) i do all the maintenance and make sure it drives and safe so that would help me alot to keep the car healthy.

is there a thread about it somewhere on HT i dont know what to search for
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:30 PM
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Don't waste your money on some computer module that supposedly tells you your mpg & if your throwing codes etc. The stock ecu does just a fine job of notifying you if there is a sensor issue.

Spend your money on better things like taking your wife on a vacation :-)
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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no i dont care about MPG i want it to keep track of sensors data.

she already blew 3 engines in her civic so i got her an integra.
(first one caught on fire, second one ran without oil or coolant for about a week,or two before she said it makes a funny noise)
cuz im the one have to do the swaps later lol she knows that a car has 4 wheels thats about it neither she cares about anythign else
it would make it much easier for me to maintain the car if i see the data.

i pretty much looking for datalogging so i can see if anything is out of spec so i know beforehand if something is about to fail...
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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My wife is the same way, open the hood once in awhile lol.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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so is there anything available on the market that will do what i need?
or can someone give me a proper name for those things?
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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That's what gauges, indicators, and CELs are for. Paying attention to those is a basic element of proper driving. No offense but it sounds like she needs to be a better driver.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 06:04 PM
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Got to agree with the above, ^^^, or just check for stored trouble codes once a week.

I have had an ex wife and a couple GFs that were like that, none of them were stupid so it did not take much to teach them what to look and listen for and to let me know as soon as something was out of the "ordinary", I made sure they knew how to change a tire, check tire pressure, check fluid levels, check and replace fuses and do an oil change.

Now the above did cost me a few special dinners out, but that was a lot cheaper in the long run.

To your question, I know of nothing that is cost effective that can do the job any better then then the OBD of the cars ECU/ECM.

I suppose you could plug a laptop, [with a data logging program] into the the diagnostic port, [OBD port].

An Auterra DashDyno SPD is $300+, the would do what you want, so if your wife is blowing motors at the rate you say see is, then a $300 bill may be "cost effective". 94
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check out a tunerview I'm not sure if it data logs but its a good display for sensors.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by raverx3m
no i dont care about MPG i want it to keep track of sensors data.

she already blew 3 engines in her civic so i got her an integra.
(first one caught on fire, second one ran without oil or coolant for about a week,or two before she said it makes a funny noise)
cuz im the one have to do the swaps later lol she knows that a car has 4 wheels thats about it neither she cares about anythign else
it would make it much easier for me to maintain the car if i see the data.

i pretty much looking for datalogging so i can see if anything is out of spec so i know beforehand if something is about to fail...
Do you know what bad data looks like? Doubtful. The fact that you think there is a datalogger that will tell you when the engine is about to blow speaks volumes. Save your money. If between you and your wife neither one of you are competent enough to maintain the vehicle then find a good repair shop and make regularly scheduled visits. A good shop will keep track of maintenance services they perform and do periodic check ups of the vehicle.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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you gonna pay for the repair shop bills maybe? thanks

i know enough to figure it out if there was a tool like that.
maybe you should read the post again before giving advice.
i asked if theres a tool like that because it would be a nice tool to have for troubleshooting.
if you have a chart of all the sensors.


maybe if you knew the situation instead of trying to be a smartass..
we have 4 cars and im the one that does all the maintenance on them so its a bit hard to keep track of whats going on with each car.. im in the middle of complete rebuild as in the whole car beeing stripped down and rebuilt... so a tool like that would help alot to keep track of her car.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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you gonna pay for the repair shop bills maybe? thanks
No.
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i know enough to figure it out if there was a tool like that.
maybe you should read the post again before giving advice.
i asked if theres a tool like that because it would be a nice tool to have for troubleshooting.
if you have a chart of all the sensors.
LoL a chart for all the sesnors? The "tool" you are looking for will not help you. Im trying to save you money. You wouldn't know what you were looking at any way,its obvious.
*a chart of all the sensors* LoL...
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maybe if you knew the situation instead of trying to be a smartass..
we have 4 cars and im the one that does all the maintenance on them so its a bit hard to keep track of whats going on with each car.. im in the middle of complete rebuild as in the whole car beeing stripped down and rebuilt... so a tool like that would help alot to keep track of her car.
Sounds like you cant afford to properly maintain 4 cars and dont care to keep tabs on the one running car because you have your "project" Slice it anyway you want,its incompitence on your part(the car guy) not hers. At least take her car to a shop regularly if you are unable to maintain it. Trust me this tool( a Launch CRecorder ,BTW) is NOT gonna help you.

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I don't see how a datalog of factory sensors is going to help. The only useful thing would be to monitor the MIL codes and temperature, and the car already does that for you. Just tell your wife to pull over and shut off the car if it is 1) overheating, 2) showing an oil light or 3) showing a CEL. It's not really rocket science.

And on your end check the compression, fluid levels, and spark plugs once or twice a year.
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thanks gagnar. thats what i was asking to see if there anything available.

but im just gonna put that coolant temp gauge and oil pressure that should be enough...
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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thanks gagnar. thats what i was asking to see if there anything available.

but im just gonna put that coolant temp gauge and oil pressure that should be enough...
Put it in bold it for you. If you insist on getting it,its available.
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I don't see how a datalog of factory sensors is going to help. The only useful thing would be to monitor the MIL codes and temperature, and the car already does that for you. Just tell your wife to pull over and shut off the car if it is 1) overheating, 2) showing an oil light or 3) showing a CEL. It's not really rocket science.

And on your end check the compression, fluid levels, and spark plugs once or twice a year.
I check once a MONTH. I have a schedule programmed on the wife's Iphone and she knows how to pull codes if they come on.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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I check once a MONTH. I have a schedule programmed on the wife's Iphone and she knows how to pull codes if they come on.
What do you expect to see? What constitutes a bad sensor? Which sensor will cause a catastrophic failure to the engine? Why not use the dash board for info? I understand pulling the codes,I dont understand checking once a month....
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I check fluids once a month.
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I check fluids once a month.
Oh. Good habit then....
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Sorry. I didn't edit the quote.
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DCFIVER what is your problem. i didnt ask for your advice on how to maintain the cars that i have i didnt ask you to help me save money or any other stuff.. ill put it in bold for you. why not answer the fkn question then since you know it. if its available then can you please provide me a link. instead of posting all these useless replies that dont really help anyone but your ego.


i could only find the plugins that work like typical datalogging when plugged into a PC or a laptop or iphone.


what i was looking for is a module that has built in memory and records the sensor data so it can be viewed on PC later as a graph
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DCFIVER what is your problem. i didnt ask for your advice on how to maintain the cars that i have i didnt ask you to help me save money or any other stuff.. ill put it in bold for you. why not answer the fkn question then since you know it. if its available then can you please provide me a link. instead of posting all these useless replies that dont really help anyone but your ego.


i could only find the plugins that work like typical datalogging when plugged into a PC or a laptop or iphone.


what i was looking for is a module that has built in memory and records the sensor data so it can be viewed on PC later as a graph
Reading pwns. Go back and read my posts. I already listed the item youre looking for. Its in bold letters I use the tool to graph and monitor sensors on customers cars when looking for an intermittent fault. I install the CR let the customer drivearound until the complaint occurs.
Never mind , read this,FAQ about the tool:
http://www.crecorder.com/website/index.do?method=preFAQ
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The thing is most of the info the ECU outputs isn't going to be useful to you. What are you going to do with datalogs for duty cycle, throttle position, table ignition, manifold pressure, etc. If the ECU on the car is stock the only possibly useful thing will be coolant temp, which the ECU already sends to the coolant temp. gauge in the instrument cluster. I guess you could buy a gauge and monitor oil pressure but the oil light will come on if oil pressure is critical and mostly a pressure gauge will only confuse someone who doesn't know about cars.

The car already has everything you need built in to monitor the engine well enough to keep it safe, at least on a stock engine.
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Thing about the stock oil pressure light. If it comes on then it's already too late. An additional gauge wouldn't hurt.
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Thing about the stock oil pressure light. If it comes on then it's already too late.
Only if you keep driving, [leave engine running] when the light comes on. 94
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lol yea nice touch on editing your posts and pretending it was there wtf.

maybe if you cut all the BS out of your replies i would see that...

ever tried not beeing an *******?
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