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Removed turbo kit from EM1 and now it wont run right

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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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Default Removed turbo kit from EM1 and now it wont run right

Ill start from the top I guess

Car is a 99 EM1

I had the car turbod for about 2 years and it slowly started to smoke more and more. ( bad turbo ) I pulled the entire turbo kit off, now I have the following problems

Car starts just fine, however it has next to nothing on the throttle response, idles for about three seconds then just bogs out n dies.

With the P2T ECU I have the following CEL
Fuel sys 1
Fuel sys 2
calc load
ECT
STFT B1
LTFT B1
Map ( Kpa )
eng rpm
Veh speed
IAT
TPS

When I plug the P28 with conversion harness back into it with the hondata chipped removed it does the same thing but has no CEL. It still has the Walbro 255 in it, 4 bar MAP, put stock injectors back in it... anyone got any idea on how to simply get it driveable??
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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If it is essentially stock, why in the hell are you still running a 4bar MAP sensor?
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Thread title edited, don't tell Ron
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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If it is essentially stock, why in the hell are you still running a 4bar MAP sensor?
Cause I couldnt find my OEM one.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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Get one.
And could you actually list the CEL codes?
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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Is this on a B16a2?
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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Is this on a B16a2?
Good point. So with the P28 stripped down to stock, an ECU that is meant to run a 2 cam engine, you're wondering why you're having issues?

Get the right stock ECU and MAP sensor for starters.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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He said those codes were with the p2t ecu. So he's using the correct ecu if he still has the a2
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Arg. Read that backwards. Imma stop posting tonight.
Return EVERYTHING to stock. Everything.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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Lol..x2
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Did you also forget to re gap the plugs to their proper stock gap?
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Most my OEM parts are gone. Yes its the A2. Would the map sensor make it die though? I dont mind the CEL being on, just have to drive it like that for about 2 weeks till the motor is pulled. Im pretty sure its the TPS, like I said it idles down till it dies and wont respond well the the throttle when I push it in. Ill locate a map sensor and mess with the TPS, let you know tomorrow. Just wondering if there is something obvious that I need. For the most part everything is back to stock with the exception of 3 things
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Removed turbo kit from EM1 and now it wont run right

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Did you also forget to re gap the plugs to their proper stock gap?
Yes I took them from .018 back to .042 but they are still the BKR7E's
I have new ones for the stock motor I bought today I will be putting them in tonight as well
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Removed turbo kit from EM1 and now it wont run right

The obvious thing you need is all the stock parts especially the map sensor. What are the other 2 non stock parts?walbro 255 and??
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bizzle5OH3
Most my OEM parts are gone. Yes its the A2. Would the map sensor make it die though? I dont mind the CEL being on, just have to drive it like that for about 2 weeks till the motor is pulled. Im pretty sure its the TPS, like I said it idles down till it dies and wont respond well the the throttle when I push it in. Ill locate a map sensor and mess with the TPS, let you know tomorrow. Just wondering if there is something obvious that I need. For the most part everything is back to stock with the exception of 3 things
Yes you need the stock map sensor.

Originally Posted by Bizzle5OH3
Yes I took them from .018 back to .042 but they are still the BKR7E's
I have new ones for the stock motor I bought today I will be putting them in tonight as well
Run the regular plugs, heat range 5 I believe. My car ran fine with a Walboro 255 and stock FPR, stock everything else. But I would find an OEM fuel pump just in case
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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the ecu is wrong. map sensor is wrong. get oem spec map. install p2t OEM ecu with OEM basemap.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Removed turbo kit from EM1 and now it wont run right

Originally Posted by Dc4LsTeG
The obvious thing you need is all the stock parts especially the map sensor. What are the other 2 non stock parts?walbro 255 and??
Fuel pump and Cat ( No emissions ) so the O2 isnt hooked up nor is the one in the header I put on. Its almost not worth it! Ill probably send the turbo off to be rebuilt and just put the kit back on, just was tryin to avoid some down time. But ill find a map sensor, swap the plugs and clean the TPS and see if that makes a difference before givin up. Let you all know how it goes. Thanks for the responses
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Humphrizzle
the ecu is wrong. map sensor is wrong. get oem spec map. install p2t OEM ecu with OEM basemap.
Lol learn to read
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Humphrizzle
the ecu is wrong. map sensor is wrong. get oem spec map. install p2t OEM ecu with OEM basemap.
wow he has stated that he has a OEM ECU. im confused about the OEM basemap part oem OBDII are not tuned pretty much ever so it would be the oem basemap
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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that's nice.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Whats nice? That you didn't read before posting?
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 04:14 AM
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cant run a stock ecu on a 4 bar map sensor. get an oem one and retry. but to me it sounds like u need to fix all ur cel codes one at a time. we cant help u if u cant be specific on what codes they are..
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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oem map sensor and oem injectors if you're gonna run the p2t. sounds like you messed something up when you removed the turbo setup though.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 05:40 AM
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If none of this works I would say the ringlands are going to crumble when you pull the motor apart.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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^^ don't think so I just broke my ringlands and didn't have a problem close to this. My car still ran and drove.
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