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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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I was thinking of buying a short block from Bisimoto and just want to know is it worth it? I need good and bad info on his products.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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Define "worth it". Your question is really ambiguous.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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I don't think anyone denies that Bisimoto does good work. It's just that the headers were over-hyped and questionably advertised.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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If his short blocks are like his header, its going to perform like **** between 3-7k
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
If his short blocks are like his header, its going to perform like **** between 3-7k
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Look at his motor builds and answer for yourself. Your just going to get trolls in your thread like above.

I have no problems with any swaps bisi has built for us that I needed done.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 11:35 PM
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When I say worth it I want know if I'm going to get wat I pay for. I read a thread on here about a guy getting his 08 Si tuned and Bisi did a bad job. I don't want that to be me if I was to purchase the block. Just because you built cars with crazy power for yourself don't mean you'll do it for everyone else.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 04:19 AM
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Look at his motor builds and answer for yourself. Your just going to get trolls in your thread like above.

I have no problems with any swaps bisi has built for us that I needed done.
You obviously haven't been clowned out of 1100 dollars. When you are, like quite few of us have been, i'm sure your mind will change dramastically.

There are bettery engine builders out there anyway. Personal and hands on experince always speaks more then just internet reading. I've been blessed to enjoy quite a few customers that feel the same way as i do.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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I am not saying he is the only guy that can build motors. I can build my own, There is eugune at prostreet, Chris at flatbush and alot others too that can build and ship. I just don't have the equipment to blueprint and balance. So I out source those projects. And Bisi can handle those orders for me when I need them. And we never have a problem. I seen some of your builds too so I know you can handle the job too all motor.

His tuning service is great and is on par. And I have sent him some pertty weried shyt to tune. Like allways, Bring a car thats running correctly to a dyno appointment. Its not the tuner fault to rebuild your wiring harness or to do a tune up(over haul) to your car.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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I just don't have the equipment to blueprint and balance
Not everyone can afford the high end measuring tools for the blueprinting process. I get that. So for those who cant, theres a very common and very affordable option out there, that being plastigauge. Its super cheap and really easy to use. Most people around here are willing to help with where to set clearances for any particular build type. I know I would if asked. As far as ring gaps go, I don't personally do this, but I've seen ring gaps adjusted by hand with sand paper. I'd recommend spending a few bucks on a cutter. It's always money well spent in the end. Using a simple set of feeler gauges will help you achieve the appropriate gaps. To add, just about any machine shop in the country can balance a rotating assembly for pretty cheap.

Just make sure you are paying for quality and a service you couldn't normally perform on your own and not the spin and, or, the name.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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If you can ask this type of question then you obviously can afford it. If you cant afford it then don't buy it. If money was not an issue I'd do it.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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where is good ol julio?
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater
I am not saying he is the only guy that can build motors. I can build my own, There is eugune at prostreet,<b>SAMMY<\b> at flatbush and alot others too that can build and ship.
Fixed it for you
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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+1 for Sammy.
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Originally Posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater
I am not saying he is the only guy that can build motors. I can build my own, There is eugune at prostreet, SAMMY@FLATBUSH PROJECTS and alot others too that can build and ship.
Fixed it for you
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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building a motor isnt hard....just requires the right tools and patience....if bisi cant a build a motor then i would be really worried.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FLATBUSH PROJECTS
Fixed it for you
Sorry, My phone whats your name to be chris!
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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Text me
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by vteck1ck
and just want to know is it worth it?
I think this part got overlooked. Do you mind if I ask what block (B? H? K? D? L?) and package you were looking at purchasing?

I'm not going to answer your question as I feel it's a matter of personal opinion based on your understanding of what you are getting for what you are paying. But, I will lay everything out for you and help give you the perspective to be able to answer that question on your own.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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His original question is absolutely not related to the actual topic. He's asking us if he buys whatever Bisimoto block if there a possibility that he is going to get ripped off.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
His original question is absolutely not related to the actual topic. He's asking us if he buys whatever Bisimoto block if there a possibility that he is going to get ripped off.
There's more than one way to rip someone off. That's why I asked which block and package he was interested in so I could break everything down for him. That way he can take a look at everything and decide on his own whether he feels it's worth it, or, if he feels he'd be getting ripped off.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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There's more than one way to rip someone off. That's why I asked which block and package he was interested in so I could break everything down for him. That way he can take a look at everything and decide on his own whether he feels it's worth it, or, if he feels he'd be getting ripped off.
That should actually be HIS research to do I think.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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I did research and it seems no one has bought a block from Bisi. I'm looking to get a B-series block, the stage 1 packeage, it's around 3k.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Then if you can find nothing you move on to the next engine builder. Sounds simple to me.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by vteck1ck
I'm looking to get a B-series block, the stage 1 packeage, it's around 3k.
Originally Posted by bisimoto.com
Customer supplied rods and Pistons.
Sleeved strutted/braced ductile iron block, courtesy of Golden eagle
Bored, and precision honed (max bore of 86.5mm n/a and 85mm boosted)
Fully blueprinted and balanced (no platigauge, only precision instruments)
Bearings and thrustwashers included
Meticulous assembly
Includes Torco TBO (break-in oil), and TR-1 replacement oil for dynoing and running, with proper specified weight, for example 5w-30)
Ok, lets break the entire package down, assuming the customer supplies the core block.

Golden Eagle Sleeves - $1150
Bore/hone - $200
Micro polish crank $75
Rod/Main Bearings/Thrust - $200
Balanced Rotating Assembly - $200

Doesn't specify whether it includes oil/water pumps or anything like that. So, I will just assume that stuff is not included.

So, roughly $1825 in hard parts and machine work at retail pricing levels. That means you are paying almost $1200 for fluids and to have them blueprint and assemble the shortblock.

Blueprinting is something that is included in any decent builders assembly anyway, just saying.

I don't know, it's your call on whether you think it's worth it or not. I have my opinion.

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