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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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Hi everyone. I own a 94 DelSol EG2 VTEC. I want to put some money into my car but i'm not sure if it's the right decision. I'm nowhere near as intelligent as yall are when it comes to cars. My car slowly burns oil(smokes when i get on it too hard). What would you guys do? Wait until my motor gives in? Or are there things that i can do to improve my engine w/o buying a new one?
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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do you plan to race it and beat on her a bit? or just a fun dd? but rebuild or swap!

dont wanna put too much money in if its gonna blow up on you, unless your rebuilding it. or start getting a swap motor ready for when she goes down.
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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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I am in the same boat, tough decision. Basically, I just add oil, but it does add up. Determine what shape is the rest of the car? if everything else is decent then do a swap, rebuild can be costly unless you do it yourself, you will need pistons, valves everything to do it right.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 02:49 AM
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rebuild or swap indeed
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:52 AM
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Get money together to prepare for that day it does blow up on you. I suggest getting a new motor.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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Id judge the rest of the car.....I mean D series motors are cheap, however thats just a small peice of the puzzle. Hows the suspension? the trans? the exhaust, yada yada....

If everything is good on the car except the motor burning a tiny bit....id get a swap. Rebuilding an engine isn't as cost effective as just swapping with low miles jdm...

If money was no issue...K series swap, lol
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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Yeah the rest of the car is in amazing condition. No dents or dings except slight hail damage on the hood only, has high quality suspension, everything works ( except radiator fan went out recently? maybe a fuse?) Exhaust is Apexi catback i believe just a little too loud for me. Have to push the clutch in every time i see a cop lol. Honestly, everything besides under the hood is in top condition. Sure there are things i could improve, but overall its good. How much am i looking at if i do a motor swap?
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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It burns under load, so that be valve stem seals. If it's rings, it would be under high RPMs, but it does have 260k miles...

You said it's a Del Sol VTEC, so it has a B16. If it were me, I'd just find another motor and sell the old one to help subsidize the cost. B16s are pretty cheap. Or you could put a B18C1 in, or really any B series. You're looking at anywhere from maybe $500 for a CRV or LS engine, to $4k for a higher end JDM ITR engine. Also budget a couple hundred for a new clutch, though Amazon has them cheaper usually. Do the timing belt, tensioner and water pump at the same time, looking at $250 or so maybe from Honda.

you can rebuild fairly cheap, but you will be out of a car for a month at least. Machine shops usually take at least 2 weeks to do anything. And something always goes wrong, so you'll have to allow some time for the inevitable issues that come up. A swap you could just have completely ready, start on a Friday afternoon and get it done in a day or less if you have someone experienced with you.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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If you got a B16 motor in your del Sol i would just rebuild that engine with OEM parts or aftermarket parts whatever your plans are with your car.DD or race toy.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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Hmm... Well would it be worth rebuilding it? I'm just using it as a DD. Just trying to get my plan ready before summer comes.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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Drive it until it was dead, only fixing cheap stuff. Most 5th gens with that much mileage are pretty rusty around here.



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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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This one's easy. You've already got a b-series in there.

Hmotors h22a Longblock $1100
QSD h2b kit $750
4 pack of quality Founder's Brewing Company Breakfast Stout $8

More fun than you ever thought you could have in a Del Slo Priceless
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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I haven't noticed any rust whatsoever on my car. Not much salt in Oklahoma.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Libertariat
This one's easy. You've already got a b-series in there.

Hmotors h22a Longblock $1100
QSD h2b kit $750
4 pack of quality Founder's Brewing Company Breakfast Stout $8

More fun than you ever thought you could have in a Del Slo Priceless
That sounds like a price i'm willing to pay. Anyone agree with this? Btw what is a qsd h2b kit?
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgDelSol
That sounds like a price i'm willing to pay. Anyone agree with this? Btw what is a qsd h2b kit?


By the time you buy the motor - h2b kit - mounts - and all other parts needed for this you will be spending around 2500-3k

H2B - Where you convert the H motor to fit a B series transmission.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgDelSol
That sounds like a price i'm willing to pay. Anyone agree with this? Btw what is a qsd h2b kit?
I agree 100%.
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Libertariat
This one's easy. You've already got a b-series in there.

Hmotors h22a Longblock $1100
QSD h2b kit $750
4 pack of quality Founder's Brewing Company Breakfast Stout $8

More fun than you ever thought you could have in a Del Slo Priceless
where did u find a H22a longblock for $1100??
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Steezer
where did u find a H22a longblock for $1100??


HMOTORSONLINE.COM
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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Wow...i thought 22a's were alot more expensive. might buy a h22 now
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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 09:51 PM
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Yeah I don't want to spend 3k on the engine for a DD. Its not that much but id rather put 3k towards another car.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by hannslebo
By the time you buy the motor - h2b kit - mounts - and all other parts needed for this you will be spending around 2500-3k

H2B - Where you convert the H motor to fit a B series transmission.
Wrong. A QSD h2b swap is effectively a b-series swap. Uses B-series mounts, b-series axles, etc. The ONLY thing that is different is the engine, the addition of an H2B kit, and you'll have to hammer the frame rail a bit for clearance.

Originally Posted by OmgDelSol
Yeah I don't want to spend 3k on the engine for a DD. Its not that much but id rather put 3k towards another car.
Yeah, I don't want a fast, quality daily driver either. Good point.

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by OmgDelSol
That sounds like a price i'm willing to pay. Anyone agree with this? Btw what is a qsd h2b kit?
I agree with this. If you wanna save a little more just drop an H23. But H2B is the best bang for you buck swap out there.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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Yeah, I don't want a fast, quality daily driver either. Good point.



Yeah idk what i was thinking. So is the $2500-$3000 the price for just the parts? There's no way i'd be able to accomplish this project. I'd have to take it to get it done.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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If you have a good shop you should be able to get it done for your budget. Remember, $1,100 for the engine and $750 for the kit and extra for miscellaneous stuff that always pops up. I had shop install an engine for me for $500 cash.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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Yeah i'll have to look around and see if there are any quality shops around here.
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