need the good and bad on the crx hf
I currently own a 3 cyl 5 spd metro. I have the chance to buy a crx hf. So im debating on selling the metro or keep the metro and not buy the hf....
i need to know what to look for on hf before I buy it...
The good on the hf vs metro is more power and frame doesnt rust out. The bad about the hf is that parts are hard to find like the trans.
How many mpgs are the hf owners getting and any more info will be appreciated.
i need to know what to look for on hf before I buy it...
The good on the hf vs metro is more power and frame doesnt rust out. The bad about the hf is that parts are hard to find like the trans.
How many mpgs are the hf owners getting and any more info will be appreciated.
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Had mine for a few months. Definitely surprised that it is even somewhat zippy but if you're going for an HF then you should not be driving with a lead foot to begin with. I think the biggest difference for me specifically was the fact that I got the '88 model which is the lightest without a/c. Also I didn't realize it when I bought it but I ended up with the California model which has the different ECU and slightly shorter final gear which sacrifices a few mpg's for a slight bit more acceleration. However, I'm still averaging 45mpg's and closer to 50 if all highway.
I will say it feels VERY weird cruising around the city around 1300 rpms, especially in a Honda.
Overall, this is a very decent compromise and the handling is great(even without the rear sway bar).
BTW, my other cars are a Porsche and BMW and I still think this is a fun and economical car. That's how much I like the HF.
My $.02
I will say it feels VERY weird cruising around the city around 1300 rpms, especially in a Honda.
Overall, this is a very decent compromise and the handling is great(even without the rear sway bar).
BTW, my other cars are a Porsche and BMW and I still think this is a fun and economical car. That's how much I like the HF.
My $.02
Had mine for a few months. Definitely surprised that it is even somewhat zippy but if you're going for an HF then you should not be driving with a lead foot to begin with. I think the biggest difference for me specifically was the fact that I got the '88 model which is the lightest without a/c. Also I didn't realize it when I bought it but I ended up with the California model which has the different ECU and slightly shorter final gear which sacrifices a few mpg's for a slight bit more acceleration. However, I'm still averaging 45mpg's and closer to 50 if all highway.
I will say it feels VERY weird cruising around the city around 1300 rpms, especially in a Honda.
Overall, this is a very decent compromise and the handling is great(even without the rear sway bar).
BTW, my other cars are a Porsche and BMW and I still think this is a fun and economical car. That's how much I like the HF.
My $.02
I will say it feels VERY weird cruising around the city around 1300 rpms, especially in a Honda.
Overall, this is a very decent compromise and the handling is great(even without the rear sway bar).
BTW, my other cars are a Porsche and BMW and I still think this is a fun and economical car. That's how much I like the HF.
My $.02
Hfs are cool if your gonna use it soley for mpgs once you get outta that way more modding is needed since everything is soo tiny
Id have the motor and trans checked by a mechanic to make sure all is well. Like you said transmissions are hard to find
Id have the motor and trans checked by a mechanic to make sure all is well. Like you said transmissions are hard to find
I don't know about the hf. But with my SI, I bought it needing a tranmission. I picked up a SI tranmission at a U-Pull, ended up not having 3rd gear. I picked up another transmission this time a DX, it works but has a loud barring noise and needs a third synco. So I will be putting the forth transmission into it soon.
I think the problem is finding good parts, not that there is a common problem between them. Except most civic's third wears out first..
I think the problem is finding good parts, not that there is a common problem between them. Except most civic's third wears out first..
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The HF tranny is lighter IIRC and so presumed slightly weaker but shouldn't make a difference unless you are boosting an HF(doubtful) and crunching through gears(watch out with short shifters or misadjusted clutch). I don't think too many people with HF's are going to be doing aggressive shifting like they do with SI models. I've never seen an HF tranny with messed up synchros like on the SI's FWIW.
The HF tranny is lighter IIRC and so presumed slightly weaker but shouldn't make a difference unless you are boosting an HF(doubtful) and crunching through gears(watch out with short shifters or misadjusted clutch). I don't think too many people with HF's are going to be doing aggressive shifting like they do with SI models. I've never seen an HF tranny with messed up synchros like on the SI's FWIW.
Horn,
You hit the biggest "bad" in your own post....parts are hard to find. BUT, they are not impossible. You just can't run down to your local Auto Zone for every part like you could with the Metro.
Fuel Economy wise, they are going to be similar. (Really, anything in the 40-50+ MPG range is awesome)...as mentioned, the HF's economy has a lot to do with drive style, but even if you "just drive it", you still are gonna see 45 mpg or so.
So, really IMHO, it comes down to the fact that a Metro has a "cool factor" of .....well none. Where a CRX is just about the tops of the charts for anything with ultra high mileage with a reasonable budget.
My suggestion...if you have some level of mechanical ability, and don't mind having to do some searching for parts when needed, the HF is the way to go. My son's REX, even its current, somewhat beat up , 5 out of 10 appearance state, still turns heads and gets a few "cool car" responses in parking lots...something you will never get with a Metro.
Also, with the HF, assuming you keep it rubber side down, it will never be worthless. With so many parts being discontinued, even after its life is over, a CRX will still have some pretty good value just in parts.
You hit the biggest "bad" in your own post....parts are hard to find. BUT, they are not impossible. You just can't run down to your local Auto Zone for every part like you could with the Metro.
Fuel Economy wise, they are going to be similar. (Really, anything in the 40-50+ MPG range is awesome)...as mentioned, the HF's economy has a lot to do with drive style, but even if you "just drive it", you still are gonna see 45 mpg or so.
So, really IMHO, it comes down to the fact that a Metro has a "cool factor" of .....well none. Where a CRX is just about the tops of the charts for anything with ultra high mileage with a reasonable budget.
My suggestion...if you have some level of mechanical ability, and don't mind having to do some searching for parts when needed, the HF is the way to go. My son's REX, even its current, somewhat beat up , 5 out of 10 appearance state, still turns heads and gets a few "cool car" responses in parking lots...something you will never get with a Metro.
Also, with the HF, assuming you keep it rubber side down, it will never be worthless. With so many parts being discontinued, even after its life is over, a CRX will still have some pretty good value just in parts.
So, really IMHO, it comes down to the fact that a Metro has a "cool factor" of .....well none. Where a CRX is just about the tops of the charts for anything with ultra high mileage with a reasonable budget.
Also, with the HF, assuming you keep it rubber side down, it will never be worthless. With so many parts being discontinued, even after its life is over, a CRX will still have some pretty good value just in parts.
Also, with the HF, assuming you keep it rubber side down, it will never be worthless. With so many parts being discontinued, even after its life is over, a CRX will still have some pretty good value just in parts.
Plus the handling on the CRX is definitely more sporty than the Metro. However if you're main concerns are parts availability, you should research on what type of parts really break often on these cars and out of those, which ones are HF specific and then out of the HF specific ones, which parts are NLA. I think you'll be surprised by the percentage.
But if you are cautious and conservative and want to take zero risks and just get from point a to point b with gas mileage being your main concern, please just stick with your metro.
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