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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Hey im looking to drop my car 1" to 1.5" max. I have about $500 to spend and im wondering what the best setup would be to achieve this and make it ride/drive good. I have a 95 cx with a gsr swap in fyi.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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btw i have never lowered a car so thats why im worried about doing it right
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Kick in another $100 and you should get Progress CSIIs with the 350/250 spring rates. I run these. Perfect for that amount of drop. Anyone tells you to get F&F, D2, Blackworks, K-Sport or Skunk 2 you should ignore.

See the following glowing endorsement.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/another-satisfied-progess-eg-owner-3014778/
They are so good that they cannot keep these bad boys in stock! And when they are in stock they don't last long.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 04:56 PM
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installation is not hard its just changing shocks/struts basically but what sux is these cars are close to 20 yrs old and the bolts seize
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Kick in another $100 and you should get Progress CSIIs with the 350/250 spring rates. I run these. Perfect for that amount of drop. Anyone tells you to get F&F, D2, Blackworks, K-Sport or Skunk 2 you should ignore.

See the following glowing endorsement.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3014778
They are so good that they cannot keep these bad boys in stock! And when they are in stock they don't last long.
really? so the car can ride decent with a little bit of drop like that?
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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installation is not hard its just changing shocks/struts basically but what sux is these cars are close to 20 yrs old and the bolts seize
PB Blaster!!! I've got 6 new bolts for swapping out LCAs.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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PB Blaster!!! I've got 6 new bolts for swapping out LCAs.
yeah thats true

op if i was you id look out for the inevedable get all new rear bolts and maybe new lca's from the junkyard they're cheap 10 bucks each i didn't have spares so i had to go to a local shop Import sports and got Skunk2 LCA's for 250 dollars which i didnt want to spend but now i dont regret it

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really? so the car can ride decent with a little bit of drop like that?
yes those coilovers are great for a low drop especially with those rates
im lowered 2 inches riding on Koni Yellow/GC setup lifetime warranty 840 some bucks
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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I'm hoping to keep stock lca's and just change the bushings to energy suspension
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I'm hoping to keep stock lca's and just change the bushings to energy suspension
those will start squeeking and creeking i would go with stock bushings much better ride
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really? so the car can ride decent with a little bit of drop like that?
YES!!!!
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I'm hoping to keep stock lca's and just change the bushings to energy suspension
I think Hardrace makes a bushing kit. Can;t go wrong with OEM or hard rubber aftermarket.
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:27 PM
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Kick in another $100 and you should get Progress CSIIs with the 350/250 spring rates. I run these. Perfect for that amount of drop. Anyone tells you to get F&F, D2, Blackworks, K-Sport or Skunk 2 you should ignore.

See the following glowing endorsement.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3014778
They are so good that they cannot keep these bad boys in stock! And when they are in stock they don't last long.
Where should i order these from?
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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http://www.robearracing.com/pd-progr...ic-integra.cfm

http://www.progressauto.com/products.../productID/595

check the sponsors in the marketplace they have good deals
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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Springs would be a decent option also if thats the route you would like to go, if so Id recommend Eibach Sportline they are very reasonably priced also!
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I wouldn't do springs. With just springs you will never have the height even all the way around. You'll get your drop, but that will always bug you.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
I wouldn't do springs. With just springs you will never have the height even all the way around. You'll get your drop, but that will always bug you.
What springs have you used that dont give an even drop all around? if that were the case ALL springs (including coilover springs) will never give you an even height/preload all around, not just lowering springs.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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What springs have you used that dont give an even drop all around? if that were the case ALL springs (including coilover springs) will never give you an even height/preload all around, not just lowering springs.
How can ADJUSTABLE coilovers not be ADJUSTED to any height you want?
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
With just springs you will never have the height even all the way around.
I was asking what springs do you use that do not give you an even drop all around referring to this statement???

**sorry what i wrote prior is confusing and confused the hell out of me re-reading it.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
pretty much any lowering spring set you can buy? there's so many factors that go into ride height it's impossible to make a spring set that is even for every car
very weird first time I am ever hearing this statement. I do agree lots of factors, but never heard of of uneven suspension settings unless the car had some kind of damage prior to spring installation.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
left to right suspension height is usually different even while stock
FTFY.

The car isn't balanced left to right, why should it sit level left to right?

The issue most people have with lowering springs is that the rear looks lower when going off of just the fender openings. What these people fail to account for is that the front openings are larger to begin with, and they just notice it more when the gap is smaller. My Integra needed a 3/4" rake, measured from jack points, before the fender openings looked even.
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
If I have a j32 eg2 and you have a d15 eg2 do you think they will sit the same even though they have the same lowering springs?

If I am 350lbs and you are 110lbs do you think the cars will sit the same? have you ever heard of corner balancing?

If I have a completely gutted integra hatchback and you have a full interior and dynamat and 2 12s in the trunk, will the cars sit the same, even though they are both sitting on the same set of springs?

I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just making exaggerated circumstances
No i understand what you are saying completely but he said UNEVEN making me think you throw a lowering kit on.. and front right is lower than front left... which I said I have never seen an UNEVEN lower spring set... unless people buy some shitty springs out there I dont see how that would happen often enough to make someone NOT want lowering springs.

You are just comparing car to car which makes complete sense im talking within one car is being uneven does not make sense.
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
I've always heard that if your car is lower on one side, you should just cut it till it's the same height
thats what Ive heard also, tried it once and it worked amazing! haha
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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has anyone tried using the auto zone strut and spring tool? I didn't work for me
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 02:36 AM
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has anyone tried using the auto zone strut and spring tool? I didn't work for me
Doubt you were using it properly. You need to put clamps on both sides of the spring, not just one side as I'm only guessing that's how you did it.
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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Doubt you were using it properly. You need to put clamps on both sides of the spring, not just one side as I'm only guessing that's how you did it.
I took your advice. But the the project stopped when the strut spring rentals did not fit into the coils. Did you go to a shop to get yours done or what was your technic on taking the springs off the struts?
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