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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 03:25 AM
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So heres the story....

I just picked up a 91 civic Si. Pretty much all original, just has a system and rebuilt motor.

I got it not running, seller told me it had a bad fuel pump.... So after i picked it up i swapped the pumps..

Still the pump doesnt turn on.. So, i change the main relay. Nada.. Ecu is good, i think.(it primed my other 90 Si).... (all other electrical works great, car cranks fine.) Fuses look good.

The wiring has never been fooled with...
So now pull out the volt meter and check those fuel pump wires. It shows 2.xx which doesn't seem correct.
I put the volt meter to the roof light and it shows 12.xx volts.

I called the guy to asked what exactly happened to the car..., he says that he was making a right turn, and the car just suddenly died out..


Now does anybody have any ideas????
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 07:21 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

check the ground wire connection to the thermostat housing to make sure that it is clean and secure - this is the ground for the main relay, ECU, shielding and some of the sensors - also check fuse #37 in underhood fuse box - it is second one up from bottom on right hand side and is fuse for main relay

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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Originally Posted by jlicrx
check the ground wire connection to the thermostat housing to make sure that it is clean and secure - this is the ground for the main relay, ECU, shielding and some of the sensors - also check fuse #37 in underhood fuse box - it is second one up from bottom on right hand side and is fuse for main relay


Thank you for the imput.

So i checked that ground and cleaned it also the fuse.

Still nothing. =(
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

I ran a power from the battery straight to the fuel pump. It works..

So i cranked the motor, but it still doesnt wanna start...

Tank has gas, so idk.

Please help!!
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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Check the power off the main relay:

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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Can you elaborate a little?

What am i looking for exactly?

I already put the main relay on my other car and it works...


thanks..
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

check the wire (7) on the output from the relay and see if its getting 12v power. if it doesn't to keep tracing it.
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

will do...

Thanks..
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 10:46 PM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Ok so i checked the output going into the relay.. And its not getting power..

So rechecked the grounds and everything else.. I still dont know!!

Heres a list of things i checked/replaced:

-Replaced fuel pump.
-Replaced main relay.
-Checked all fuses..
-Checked grounds.
-tried another ecu..
-Replaced ignition..
-Replaced under hood fuse box..

All this and still the fuel pump will not turn on!!

This wiring on this car is 100% original.. No alarm or fuel cut off switch..



Also when i turn the key to acces the cel comes on and stays on. the battery light DOES NOT come on, but the motor will turn over,the radio still comes o. Fuel pump is not priming.....



Has anybody had this problem b4???

Or any input on this!!!

Please help me!!

Ijust wanna drive my new car already!!
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Codes?
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 05:58 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

i had this same problem not to long ago. Mine turned out to be fuse number 14 under the dash.

Hope this will help a little.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...2#post46544822
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Originally Posted by Beasting EF22
i had this same problem not to long ago. Mine turned out to be fuse number 14 under the dash.

Hope this will help a little.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...2#post46544822
WOW THAT'S WHAT IT WAS!!!!

So now the fuel pump goes on...

New problem... It wont turn over..

It has been sitting for about 3 months..

It has fuel in the tank..

Any ideas?

I was gonna change the spark plugs, oil, and fuel filter..
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 10:28 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

What do you mean by it wont turn over?

Is the car cranking, have spark?

more details ...
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

It cranks, and has fuel, but wont start..

Checking spark right now..
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Did you get it to start or find out there is no spark?
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Not yet..

Whats the best way to check 4 spark?

lol..
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 09:11 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

im having the same problems in the same car. no power to pump but it works when given 12V from batteries. been trying to electrically diagnose it but no luck.
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Originally Posted by whitel1me
im having the same problems in the same car. no power to pump but it works when given 12V from batteries. been trying to electrically diagnose it but no luck.

Check fuse number 14 under the dash.

Thats what it was for me and others..
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 04:32 PM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

ED7 whats going on now. Fuel pump is priming all in dash lights and hazards work properly?

car is just cranking and cranking but will not fire up?
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Default Re: 91 Si Fuel pump power problem...

Originally Posted by Beasting EF22
ED7 whats going on now. Fuel pump is priming all in dash lights and hazards work properly?

car is just cranking and cranking but will not fire up?

Fixed it..

It was also the rotor, coil, and cap!!!

Thank you sir..
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