Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Hey guys i have a jdm b16 sir2 and boosting it just getting all my parts together. All it has is ITR cams and thats it. I parted my own kit and aiming for 300whp or something around there. This is my daily and my car already has a greddy sp2 exhaust. Will this exhaust hurt me a lot? People tell me its too restrictive. I like having a quite car and love the way this exhaust sounds but if it hurts me in my power i will get something bigger
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Should be ok to make 300whp.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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I think the SP2 comes with a silencer that sits inside the muffler, but it's removable. Just make sure there is no silencer in there.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

i dont think the sp2's come with a silencer. Never seen or heard of that before but i could be wrong. Im just worried the exhaust wont make me get 300whp
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

honestly, it's fine for 300whp.

WITH that said, you would make more power and for sure spool faster with a ecutout, but it's not like +40whp more at that point.

some people perfect to make a few ponies less for having a quite car.
Myself included.

ef hb si gsr turbo gt3540s
60mm rsr ex mag exhaust.... 315whp @ 10psi with ecutout open, and 304whp with it closed

my car is pretty darn quite.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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Yeah for 300whp it will work and it will be pretty quiet which is what you want. I think the SP2 is 2 1/4 so a bit small. I am only going to run a 2 1/2 turbo back on my LSV turbo with a 300whp goal. A larger exhaust will help the turbo make more power on less boost and decrease heat and boost threshold, but like I said the SP2 will work.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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i had a SP2 on my Civic when i went turbo. stock LS with S2 manifold..numbers in sig
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:18 PM
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the difference between that and an open exhaust is probably something like 1lb of boost if that for 300whp. this is a turbo car, not NA, a quite exhaust can be compensated with more pressure.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:36 PM
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If you're REALLY worried about it, go to a muffler shop and get 3" piping done for ~90$
but you shouldn't need it anyways.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 01:47 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

I am in the same boat. I have a 60mm Apexi WS2. I love the way it sounds and do not want to take it off. I have spoke with numerous people and everyone seems to think it will be fine for under 300hp.

That being said the Skunk2 mega power would be a much better option and I think they go for $540 or so.

You can always throw on the Skunk2 and sell your SP2.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

I would like to get a ecutout but my bro has one and has so many problems with it. Motor burning out, motor getting loose, n all this other stuff. How hard will it be to make 300+? I have a 60trim turbo .60ar .48 hotside. 3" dp 2.5" piping. Going to boost 10.2lbs.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

Originally Posted by JDMCIVIC919
I would like to get a ecutout but my bro has one and has so many problems with it. Motor burning out, motor getting loose, n all this other stuff. How hard will it be to make 300+? I have a 60trim turbo .60ar .48 hotside. 3" dp 2.5" piping. Going to boost 10.2lbs.
Yea, I've heard similar stories with friends of mine running cutouts, especially annoying *** exhaust rattles.

I believe you have a good chance of making 300whp with the stuff you have listed above.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

Yea my bros rattles all the time and leaks a little after a while. But its always messing up. All the time he wants to use it, it never opens and its a DTP one or whatever its called. The motor fell off once and was dragging on the road cuz it was still wired up and didnt get disconnected such a hassle. But yea my goal is 300. My b16 will be able to handle 300whp daily right? im going to a good tuner also. Ive learned that its not about psi its about power that stresses the motor. So if i make 300+ at like 13psi will that be fine? I just want to hit my goal.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

Yea, any healthy B16 is good for a max of 350whp, so dialed back to 300whp should be just fine with proper tuning. However, I do recommend ARP headstuds and rod bolts.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

Mine is custom made my a fellow honda-tech member.
I'm sure others have thought about it, but he's the first person i know that has made one. Rather than using a electric motor that sits under the car and vibrates with the entire exhaust system & car, he made a "SERVO" powered e-cutout.



Servo: $20
Servo controller/VR parts: $5
Aluminum mount plate: $1?
Controller/VR/mount assembly time: 1.5hr

Ford TB: $25
Cable/endlink/collars/springs: $15
Flange & studs: $10
Flange assembly time: 45min
TB "trimming" (shorten tps side, cut linkage): 15min
Final assembly & adjustment time: 1hr


Quick specs: case is 6x3x2", cutout/pipe is 10x8.5x3", 54" from cutout to box. Three wires, 20awg, 45" long. Only needs +12v & ground, then a grounded or powered switch for the signal wire (jumper select inside). TB can be angled ~15 degrees between the 2 sets of mounting holes in the flange. 2 adjustment pots for open & closed endpoint adjustment.

Some pics:










Here's a DMH cutout, which is fairly fast vs all the other vids I've found. Still not as fast.

http://www.dmhperformance.com/photogallery.htm (look at bottom for vids)


Benefits:
- throttle body are tapered so this ensures proper seal when closed
- no motor on the cutout, this eliminates the motor from seeing vibiration of road racing, lunching, exhaust pipe movement which reduces cutout motor or having it break off (common with many e-cut out)
- servo are proven to last +25,000 motion actuation & very rare to fail. If it does fail, servos are cheap and easy to replace.
- opens is about 1 sec with a push of a button
- can be hooked up to buttons (I use my AC button) or input to ecu to open automatically under specific settings (boost, rpm, ect).
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Greddy SP2 for turbo setup?

^First time I've seen something like that, very cool. My ecut out takes like 10 seconds to fully open.
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