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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 01:31 AM
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ok the car is a 95 civic coupe with a poor mans type r.when i turn the car not starting but to check for codes there is no check engine light but when i put the pin in the plug to check for codes the check engine light goes on and stays solid and the srs light starts blinking.now when the car is fully on the check engine light goes on.any ideas?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 04:45 AM
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so nobody knows what the problem could be.come on honda tech members.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:03 AM
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Solid light when checking the codes means you have no stored codes. If the light is coming on while driving, find a safe place to pull over, keep the car running then check the light and see if it gives you a series of blinks.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:19 AM
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Please use some punctuation in your text because it's difficult to understand.

Can I assume that the starter cranks the engine but it won't start? Is there spark at the plugs? Does the fuel pump prime?

If the CEL is on steady both with and without the service connector jumped, then you have CEL code 0. In this case, start by checking whether fuse 24 or 31 is blown. Also test the main relay.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:24 AM
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I think his car is running but the check engine light comes on when driving, but when he checks the light with the car off (key on) he only gets a solid light. I think he's referring to this in the FAQ:

Tip #2: In some cases, for 5th generation Civics (92-95), the CEL may turn on while driving, but if the engine is turned off, the CEL and CEL code will be lost. The workaround to allow recovery of the code when this happens is to safely pull to the side of the road and leave the engine running while you jump the service connector.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:29 AM
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so your saying i should start the car leave it running and then jump the plug?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:37 AM
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ok did that and there was 4 long blinks n 1 short.looked it up and said it was the primary oxygen sensor heater.how do i fix this?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:50 AM
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Start here ---> Measure the resistance across the two terminals of the O2 sensor heater element.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:56 AM
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sorry but how do i do that?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:57 AM
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You need a multimeter.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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yah i dont think i can get a hold of one.is there any other way?what does that do?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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Lol you are in trouble if you can't get ahold of a multimeter. If there is no way you can get one go buy a new o2 sensor and shotgun it. That's deffinately not the most efficient way to troubleshoot but it might work. Just make sure wherever you buy the o2 sensor you can return it. Good luck
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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damn really.yah im basically on my own on this.what would the mulitmeter do anyway?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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damn really.yah im basically on my own on this.what would the mulitmeter do anyway?
You would use it to measure the resistance of the heater circuit on the o2 sensor.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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You can buy a cheapo one for 5 dollars at Walmart or Harbor Freight.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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You would use it to measure the resistance of the heater circuit on the o2 sensor.
would i need it even if im getting a new one?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 02:03 AM
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Spend the money on a multimeter. Its nice to have whether its cheap or not and can save you a lot of time and money on "Not shotgunning"
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by angrysmileyface
Spend the money on a multimeter. Its nice to have whether its cheap or not and can save you a lot of time and money on "Not shotgunning"
shotgunning meaning?
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by xlusiveracer
shotgunning meaning?
Replacing parts at random.
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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Replacing parts at random.
what if i know its the o2 sensor for sure?would i still need?sorry for all the questions.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 01:20 AM
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The multimeter will just confirm if it is or isn't. If you know its the O2 for sure just buy the O2, clear the code and see if it comes back.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 01:40 AM
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with most cars these days a multimetre is right up there with a comp test to find out the state of your car!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 04:34 AM
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what if i know its the o2 sensor for sure?
How do you know with certainty that the O2 sensor is bad? Code 41 can also be thrown by a bad wire or ECU. To pinpoint the problem, you need to do tests with a multimeter.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:54 AM
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How do you know with certainty that the O2 sensor is bad?
Miss Cleo told him.

OP. What is the resistance in just getting multimeter and testing the sensor? Hope your new o2 sensor fixes the problem. If not you're back at square one.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:27 AM
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im on a budget thats why and this would be the only time i would be using it.but ill see what i can do.
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