I just changed pads for the first time, and used some off brand pads. they totally suck. I thought the stockers were bad. I dont want to go bigger with the rotors. my car stops hard, but only on the first go. after that the fade is ridiculous. which ones are best for street use, and weekend racing, with less fade.

 

Search...few threads on this already.

 

Check out http://www.cobaltfriction.com

Andie can set you up with some Axxis metal master brake pads. They are nothing short of awesome for the street and weekend racer.

Mike

 

I'm using Endless CC-X... have loved them so far.
http://www.ipsracing.com/brakes/pads/endless_ccx.html

 

i think i'm gonna run the endless CCX next time around

does anybody know if theres any warmup time with them in northern winters?

 

Im running panther plus pads on the street till i go to this track this weekend and they seem to be doing great once they get a little heat in them, just have to be careful till the warm up nicely, after that they are great.

 

Axxis Ultimates

 

I am using Endless CC-X right now.
I loved them so far.


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good, myabe you can help me answer this question:

does anybody know if theres any warmup time with them in northern winters?

 

Hawk HP+ or Carbotech....They dust but they stop.

 

i'm running hawk hp+ currently, they dust like a ****
and this happens everything you srep on the brake pedal:

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

 

No warmup time needed, the cold bite on the Endless CC series is pretty good (I'm using CC-M, and many of my friends are using CC-X or CC-R). Although we in Vancouver seldom get sub-freezing temperatures, at the coldest, our winter temperatures are usually around freezing or just a bit higher.

HTH

 

thanx spikey...

 

I used to use Hawk HP+ and I agree they dust like crazy. One week of dust from the HP+ is roughly equivalent to 2.5-3 weeks of dust from the CC-M. The Hawk HP+ squeal a bit more than the CC-M although the CC-M squeal when at operating temperatures also.

The HP+ have a strong initial bite but doesn't grip any harder after that. The CC-M has a slightly weaker initial bite (IMO) but the grip increases dramatically as you continue to depress the brake pedal. For instance, being in traffic and tapping gently on the brakes to slow down for a stop, with the HP+, a gentle tap of the brake and your head would lurch forward a bit as the HP+'s initial bite is so strong. But with CC-M, the braking is smoother.

Personally, I find the CC series to be more drivable and better for brake modulation than the HP+.

 

I think you mean the AXXIS ULTIMATE brake pad (for street and auto-x). I don't sell the Metal Masters.

-Andie

 

I really like my ferrodo ds2500... I daily drive and autocross them.

 

Glad to hear your DS2500's are working well for you, Brandon. The cold bite on the DS2500 will be slightly better than the Axxis Ultimate, and the dust level will be lower, but that comes at a higher price.

-Andie

 

ok, I think I will go with the axxis ultimates. I appreciate all the input!

 

so how do we get in contact with mr. andie from cobalt friction, imight want to pick up a set myself

 

bet you the axxis ultimates yshi sold me works even better

 

I have been using <u>Tecno Freno Italia Sp.A</u> pads for 2 seasons now. In my opinion they are better than Porterfield R4 pads. They dust less, are rotor friendly and have good bite up until you reach the backing plate.

They have a mu of 0.48 and are stable up to 900 Celcius.

For anyone looking for a good high performance pad - IM me and I can let you know where to get them.

Trust me - you won't be disappointed

 

Spikey how are the endless CCX pads on rotors?...

Cheers

 

Big Phat R:

What is the cost on the Tecno Freno Italia pads...curious.

On the rating specs you give...0.48mu is not particularly high. HOWEVER, I have also found that all manufacturers use differing scales...hard to explain. What is "0.48mu" from one company, may be "0.58mu" from another company...so I think it makes more sense to take your evaluation statement of "better than R4" with greater weight than the published cf rating. Lastly...the 900C rating...that's over 1600F...which is unlikely. I realize some manufacturer's rate their pads to 1600F+...but in reality, it's a pretty big stretch...

Thank you in advance,

Andie

 

Currently using EBC green's, they leave a lot of residue. Better than stock pads, but people on the board have had problems with them. I like 'em.


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Porterfield R4-S is very good