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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 11:39 AM
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P:JDM Powerchamber or OEM? Would the difference be significant enough to switch? Many of you will probably say keep the ITR stock, but I could always return to stock if I just put a cai on.
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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It has no noticeable gains (dyno or pant seat) and it sounds like crap IMO. My '98 came with a J's Racing ****. I've used a Comptech Icebox intake as well as just the OEM box with the resonator assembly removed from underneath. I liked both of those setups.
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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So you wouldn't recommend it. As far as sound/ throttle response does it change anything?
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Seriously dude...wait until you actually have the car in the driveway first before you go bolting parts on it.

And what are you looking to do with the car anyways (besides use it as a template for sh!tty aftermarket parts).
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wow todd00 calm down man you dont have to be rude. I love my comptech ice box and I also have the comptech intake arm and filter, its a little louder then the factory box with out resonator. I gained 8 hp with it then the factory setup. Comptech has been around for years and I trust them. I also heard the whale ***** loses power but idk just what I heard. I do have a jdm gsr though so your power gains could be different then mine.
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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When you join the Type-R club, you're part of a group of people that hate seeing another one with garbage parts on it. I can see where Todd is coming from. Not saying OP is one, or will do it, but it's really frustrating to see such a rare car in the hands of ricers. Plenty of them in the GSR's, not so much in the ITR's, but they're here.
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Seriously dude...wait until you actually have the car in the driveway first before you go bolting parts on it.

And what are you looking to do with the car anyways (besides use it as a template for sh!tty aftermarket parts).
He has one already though...2001 PY.

But I agree, just keep it stock (even though I wanna do all this **** to mine as well )
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Seriously dude...wait until you actually have the car in the driveway first before you go bolting parts on it.

And what are you looking to do with the car anyways (besides use it as a template for sh!tty aftermarket parts).
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If you want to try something other than the OEM intake, I would recommend a Samco induction arm, BPI velocity stack, and K&N filter. Or the Mugen intake. I've had both setups on my R and was very pleased with both.
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Mugen>Comptech>OEM

I totally understand. Not saying you are another punk kid with an ITR but its really sad to see ITRs getting picked up by these young asshats and destroying them with crappy/hackjob parts. Modern day ricers. Too many ITRs have been getting ruined within the last few years, especially with all that hellaflush garbage. Kids sure know how to ruin cars nowadays.
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Originally Posted by Tight-R
When you join the Type-R club, you're part of a group of people that hate seeing another one with garbage parts on it. I can see where Todd is coming from. Not saying OP is one, or will do it, but it's really frustrating to see such a rare car in the hands of ricers. Plenty of them in the GSR's, not so much in the ITR's, but they're here.
Understandable man I wouldn't want to see megan racing or that plastic intake they sell at autozone on a type r lol. Mugen, Comptech, ARC, Samco, K&N, or just the factory are all good intakes to choose from IMO. I'm in the market for a itr as we speak. It hurts me to see these younger kids destroying these cars. Two months ago I cought up to an itr on the highway and it was raining like crazy and he had it out and he had the window cracked a little and was smoking in it. I could have cried lol.
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IMHO it is your car do as you want. I own a ITR and I had a Whale ***** and loved it. I took it off when I S/C the car. I payed for the car with my money and I will do with it as I see fit. That includes modifying any part of the car I want with any brand part. Driving it 365 days a year (I have put 100,000 miles on it in 4 years and loved every one of them). If you don't like what I do with MY ITR then fork out the cash and buy it from me. I could care less about any other persons opinion because they are not paying for it or driving it.
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Understandable man I wouldn't want to see megan racing or that plastic intake they sell at autozone on a type r lol. Mugen, Comptech, ARC, Samco, K&N, or just the factory are all good intakes to choose from IMO. I'm in the market for a itr as we speak. It hurts me to see these younger kids destroying these cars. Two months ago I cought up to an itr on the highway and it was raining like crazy and he had it out and he had the window cracked a little and was smoking in it. I could have cried lol.
I don't even own one yet and that makes me sad. I'm not a big fan of all the boosted ones either, but to each his own i suppose. I swear all the ones for sale right now are boosted beyond being usable power, or they're missing everything that makes them fun to drive. WTF... Why don't those people just buy a regular integra, would be A LOT cheaper and not ruin a purpose built car.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:35 AM
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Neither .. buy a CAI .. heres why.. the comptech piece if looked at closely is not a completely sealed piece.. where the two boxes come together over the intake arm there is obvious gap left open.. means your egine is not pulling all the air from that tube which is placed in your fender like a CAI. They stamp Comptech on it and its a joke.

Stock is completely fine if you, remove the resonator and put some tubing from the bottom of the box to the fender.. or do what I did... source a used CAI for 50.... and call it a day. either way dont focus too much on the intake its a never ending debate about maybe 1-3 horsepower... focus on a badass header, IM, throttle body, cams, ECU, tune, etc.. theres where you will make gobsss of power.

also- look into opening up what the engine already has to offer you with a lightweight flywheel and a better final drive.. put those two pieces in alone and trust me you will forget you even asked about the word "intake"
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Just a n00b
He has one already though...2001 PY.

But I agree, just keep it stock (even though I wanna do all this **** to mine as well )
Last update it is not in OP's possession yet. He was "picking it up" this weekend.

Thus, he hasn't really driven one outside of the test drive.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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wow todd00 calm down man you dont have to be rude. I love my comptech ice box and I also have the comptech intake arm and filter, its a little louder then the factory box with out resonator. I gained 8 hp with it then the factory setup. Comptech has been around for years and I trust them. I also heard the whale ***** loses power but idk just what I heard. I do have a jdm gsr though so your power gains could be different then mine.
You have a GSR, right?

Apples and Oranges as far as intakes are concerned. The OEM ITR intake is vastly superior to the OEM GSR intake.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DC2
Mugen>Comptech>OEM

I totally understand. Not saying you are another punk kid with an ITR but its really sad to see ITRs getting picked up by these young asshats and destroying them with crappy/hackjob parts. Modern day ricers. Too many ITRs have been getting ruined within the last few years, especially with all that hellaflush garbage. Kids sure know how to ruin cars nowadays.
you do realize all three of those have the same exact function and tube placement.. all your paying for is new plastic stamped with Mugen and getting bent over... its silly... put that money else where.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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wow todd00 calm down man you dont have to be rude. I love my comptech ice box and I also have the comptech intake arm and filter, its a little louder then the factory box with out resonator. I gained 8 hp with it then the factory setup. Comptech has been around for years and I trust them. I also heard the whale ***** loses power but idk just what I heard. I do have a jdm gsr though so your power gains could be different then mine.
You could have done the same thing by removing your stock resonator.. FYI..

you dont TRUST them... you believed their marketing.. an intake is not the restrictive problem of the car... FYI I got a CAI for a purpose... road racing and needing to hear the engine as it nears the shifting point.. did I lose or gain anything? thats debatible.. but it works for a purpose. Just drop a better stock replacement filter in your box if you want a quite R and move on to your transmission.
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Originally Posted by mikestypeRR
You could have done the same thing by removing your stock resonator.. FYI..

you dont TRUST them... you believed their marketing.. an intake is not the restrictive problem of the car... FYI I got a CAI for a purpose... road racing and needing to hear the engine as it nears the shifting point.. did I lose or gain anything? thats debatible.. but it works for a purpose. Just drop a better stock replacement filter in your box if you want a quite R and move on to your transmission.
Good stuff man!! thanks
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 90efb16
Good stuff man!! thanks
another R saved from the dark side of rice... glad to see you headed the right direction... just remember the FORM is in the function... not the names mugen comptech, arc and all that other crap.
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always liked the AEM. Whale ***** draws air from the engine compartment so in stop and go traffic heat soak sets in.
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You have a GSR, right?

Apples and Oranges as far as intakes are concerned. The OEM ITR intake is vastly superior to the OEM GSR intake.
Now I understand this but I also have the skunk2 IM and a 68mm throttle body on my gsr motor, so the intake arm and box are the same as an itr. but I know the motor are going to perform totally different though.
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Originally Posted by 00IntegraR
IMHO it is your car do as you want. I own a ITR and I had a Whale ***** and loved it. I took it off when I S/C the car. I payed for the car with my money and I will do with it as I see fit. That includes modifying any part of the car I want with any brand part. Driving it 365 days a year (I have put 100,000 miles on it in 4 years and loved every one of them). If you don't like what I do with MY ITR then fork out the cash and buy it from me. I could care less about any other persons opinion because they are not paying for it or driving it.
^^^Trust me I see your point and have had some ppl flame me for doing anything but gassing up my R and driving it. But coming off so harsh when no one is hammering you about how/what you do to your car isn't going to help matters at all in this forum. Peace.

Originally Posted by mikestypeRR
Neither .. buy a CAI .. heres why.. the comptech piece if looked at closely is not a completely sealed piece.. where the two boxes come together over the intake arm there is obvious gap left open.. means your egine is not pulling all the air from that tube which is placed in your fender like a CAI. They stamp Comptech on it and its a joke.

Stock is completely fine if you, remove the resonator and put some tubing from the bottom of the box to the fender.. or do what I did... source a used CAI for 50.... and call it a day. either way dont focus too much on the intake its a never ending debate about maybe 1-3 horsepower... focus on a badass header, IM, throttle body, cams, ECU, tune, etc.. theres where you will make gobsss of power.

also- look into opening up what the engine already has to offer you with a lightweight flywheel and a better final drive.. put those two pieces in alone and trust me you will forget you even asked about the word "intake"
^^^Just yesterday I came across my first SCC magazine with the front cover showing we were finally getting the R here in the states back in late 96. Boy have I learned a lot since then!
Sounds like a double negative but, I knew what a Type R was but,...... I didn't REALLY know what a Type R was. I knew after reading about it I seriously wanting one but had no idea I'd ever own one and now, I do.

Of course I wanted more power after I got use to it and started to bolt things to it (I/H/E) and did feel some improvement. Went the SC route and enjoyed it while it lasted but it cost me a motor (bad tune) and I said ok I'll just build a turbo motor and that'll satisfy me. Well I have yet to build it and I'm kinda glad things haven't worked out the way I planned because it's given me a lot of time to think this through thoroughly. Also no telling how much $$ this ordeal might have saved me.
Well now I have to put a set of pistons in the car so I might as well bump up the C/R just a bit and, after reading Mike's post it reiterates my theory into what my brain is cooking up. (Good) bolt on parts, F/D, maybe cams and a tune.

Well said Mike.
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mikestypeRR
another R saved from the dark side of rice... glad to see you headed the right direction... just remember the FORM is in the function... not the names mugen comptech, arc and all that other crap.


Originally Posted by 90efb16
Now I understand this but I also have the skunk2 IM and a 68mm throttle body on my gsr motor, so the intake arm and box are the same as an itr. but I know the motor are going to perform totally different though.
Still comparing apples to oranges my man.
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Now I understand this but I also have the skunk2 IM and a 68mm throttle body on my gsr motor, so the intake arm and box are the same as an itr. but I know the motor are going to perform totally different though.
No, still different. And the rubber intake arms from the airbox to the IM are different between the two. The airbox between the two are the same, though.

And since you've now thrown aftermarket intake parts in to the equation (IM and TB), it is a completely different scenario than a stock ITR (different ECU, cams, compression, etc).

Just too many variables.
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