I have a b18c1 with cp pistons, golden eagle rods, supertech valves, springs and retainers. I don't have the gsr cam only b16a2 out of my 00 si... I was looking to upgrade them and looking at brain crower stage 2 turbo cams.... Any advice? I plan on running around 350-400whp but plan on building a 600whp motor over the next couple years so if I could reuse the cams it would be nice ....

 

what turbo manifold, what turbo?

 

Sorry it is a ram horn, with turbonetics 60trim and full 3inch exhaust on that side and intake manifold is stock b16a2 for now... Might go to a skunk2

 

Skunk2 pro 1 cams

 

I did hear those were good cams... I can get a very good deal on bc turbo stage 2 cams and was wondering if anyone knows much about them

 

i would just stick with oem cams. itr/ctr are great for any application.

 

Blox type B

 

GSR cams are better than the B16, CTR ITR cams are great for boost and the SK2's mentioned

 

you dont want "turbo" cams, get the bc stg 2 n/a cams, they are good or sk2 pro 1's

 

Agreed....but For youre power goals do not get Pro 1 cams unless you plan on making 600whp soon... GSR cams will work fine...If you want something better then that go with ITR/CTR.

If you want Skunk 2 get the N/a Tuner series Stage 1's. Pro 1's are too big for youre power levels(350-400). Plus you will have accelerated wear/stress on the valvetrain. Gsr/Itr will have OEM reliability on valvetrain.

i Run Gsr, if i had the choice i would prob get Ctr/ITR although there hard to find.

 

What do you mean by "dont want Turbo Cams"?
Are BC Stage 2 better that stock GSR for 600HP?

 

No. not with a 60 trim. He's too small, he'll blow out a lot of boost. Stick with GS-R or ITR please.

 

what..lmao..

Thats right, tell the newbie to get big ol na cams and blow boost right out the exhaust on the overlap period.

Classic responses on this forum.

 

Lol toda c's ftw!

Seriously though, gsr is a great cost effective cam. Itr is a nice upgrade from that. Im using itr's with the same valvetrain as you and my car makes power to redline 8900

 

Stock cams for your 350-400 whp goal.
ITR or Skunk2 tuner 1 will work fine for your 600 whp goals.

 

Thanks for all the advice .... One last question ... If I do go with the bc stage 2 would it mess with my idle etc.... Since they are a more aggressive cam or since it's built for a turbo will it be ok

 

yes. and you'll LOSE power because of the large overlap.. time for them to go bye-bye

 

BC Stage 2 Cams are good for which level of power?

 

I was going to shoot for about 400whp as a daily driver

 

And the post from "theshodan" can you explain because the turbo cams are designed to reduce overlap and increase the lift for more air intake? I'm just a little confused

 

To Shodan and others trying to help this guy. You're trying your best to point him in the right direction with ctr/itr/gsr cams for his application. Notice how he's still set on the BC cams lol llol. People ask questions and no matter what answer they get, they go with the predetermined choice!

 

this is why i really don't give advice out anymore, lol. you tell them it's not a good idea, but they made up their mind already.

 

Good point.

 

Not really .... Just curious and no one has actually given me a definitive answer and those particular cams which was one of my original cams .... I've heard from 2 tuner shops that they are newer and they like them but they told me to ask around .... I like the itr's but I've heard because they are n/a you lose about 40hp at 400hp due to the overlap and I'm just trying to learn and get everyone's opinion to make the best choice .... With a wife and 2 kids I can't afford to make the wrong one

 

Get the ITR cams....that is the right choice...You have best of both worlds...a Cam with OEM wear on drivetrain, and a cam that wil net more power then the OEM SI/GSR. If youre budgeting stick with OEM GSR cams. That is what i run. If i were to upgrade ITR would be my choice...maybe Sk2 tuner stage 1s (more money..similar camshaft but would have slight advantages over the ITR they are close tho)

The "Turbo Cams" I believe are more designed for very Basic Turbo set-ups (stock bottom ends)...Like under 250-300whp. If you had a greddy Kit and wanted to make a little more power then the Turbo cams might work for you....For 350-400hp you do not want too use these cams you will LOOSE power at 400hp using those cams. Whoever told you that youre going to loose 40HP using ITR cams has no idea what there talking about. There are TONS of posts and Dyno charts that will show that ITR cams usually net about a 40 gain over a OEM GSR/SI camshaft depending at the power level youre at...At 400whp a 25-30whp gain is likely...maybe more depending on other factors ( ported head, compression ect)