hey whats going on everyone? i have a 98 civic lx with the d16y7 motor. i have virtara pistons, tuner toy rods. ram horn header. full obxr muffler. with t25 turbo straight piped also. i would like to put the y8 vtec head on it. what is the step by step i should do? i really dont want to mess up my timing. is there away so i dont have to redo my timing? also i have the p2e ecu do i have to change that also? please tell me everything that i may run into and everything that i will need.. thank you

 

You will need to use the search bar. You know the thing in the top right corner. Search for mini-me write ups and you will find everything you need to know. You are going to get any responses cause its been cover 100's of times.

 

yea but non of them really covers about the ecu and the timing stuff. thats why im asking really. and yea i know that there is a search bar. you dont have to be a jerk about it

 

As for you questions the timing wont be a big deal. I would get an adjustable cam gear just to get things perfect. As far as an ecu, you can use a y8 ecu just make sure you stay within the obd that you are doing the swap in. The only problem is that some had a fuel tank pressure sensor and some didnt. If you want a detailed list of what you need pm me and i will fill you in.

 

Lemme see. How to take off the head and put another one on without messing up timing? Answer. None. You will still have to check it once the the new head is on then wire the ECU for VTEC.
FAQs. Plenty of links on how to do it. Google also has probably hundreds of such links as well. Doubtful NONE of them have the info you're looking for.

IMO a waste of time and guess what? You will have to RETUNE THE ECU all over again just because you want VTEC.

 

Step by Step.. = 1. Remove All connection's... Wire's, Cables, Belt's, ect...
2. Intake manifold removed.
3. Remove Head as in head gasket change.
4. Remove oil pin in between Cylinder 2 & 3.
5. Arp head bolt's, New gasket, D16z6 head, Reinstall 1-5
6. P28 vtec - dizzy. replace
7. P28 ecu replace.
8. Visit ww.Rywire.com - Go to 92-95 section Buy the DX chassie vtec sub harness, follow install direction and You got a 1.5-1.6 SOHC Vroooom...

 

P.S That's the overall set- by step but obd-2 is different. For step #8.

 

Just read that he didnt want to redo the timing lol.

 

ok cool.. thanks everyone. i just did the swap and never had a problem. i made sure i was at tdc and made sure the head was at the point also. bolted it in and never had a timing issue. my stock ecu also worked. i was wrong my ecu was not a p2e its a p2p or something like that. i didnt not have to re tune my ecu i got the arp head bolts also

 

No was in Hades you can be running a P2P ECU on a boosted setup unless you're running old school with a missing link and FMU.

 

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i didnt have to do anything but switch heads

 

Not that it matters but what engine management are you running?

 

hey whats going on grumble? im running a stock p2e ecu obd2. never had to mess with it. is that what your asking?

 

So you just built an engine (or bought it) slapped on a turbo kit and are not running with any basemap (which you can't do on a P2P) or any piggyback engine management?

 

you time the head with the crank with the stock cam gear. if its been milled you need an adjustable cam gear only in this case or its completely for looks

 

i built it. i dont buy engines because i dont know if they run or not.. but yea i threw on a turbo i never had to remap it. and i dont have a p2p ecu i have a p2e. the car was running rich but not that bad. i dont have to turbo on anymore

 

everything matched. I DO NOT NEED a adjustable cam gear everything is fine. i have been driving it for a couple days already and not a problem. im a mechanic and a instructor for engine performance at ivy tech college ive been doing test and checking the timing. and everything is perfect. i met alot of people that has the same set up has me and they dont have a problem at all. and they been running it for years

 

I don't get how people try to modify their cars and still think that everything should be a bolt-on affair! not wanting to "mess with" your timing or get a proper tune is like honing your cylinders with sandpaper or porting your head with a chisel!

 

you are a mechanic and teacher doesnt mean you know a lot about tuning a car, running perfect doesnt mean the car has no problem neither.

a lot of techs with 20 yrs exp in the field dont actually know how things actually work together, because they are just like you , wouldnt listen . at some point in their lifes they just stopped believing what other people says because they think from there experience thats not possible, but really sometimes is just incorrect. my teacher often tell me wrong things. he's an big time mechanic who worked since 60s. so just open your mind there is always new things for you to learn

btw if you searched all the info is out there.

 

I couldnt agree more

 

OP: Please keep things civil. The thread was going great until you exploded. Lots of good technical input and helpful advice you should at least consider politely. You don't have to agree with them. But the posters here are right, you do not do serious modifications to your engine like a turbo, cams, pistons, etc without tuning the car. It makes no sense to not tune a turboed engine.

If we can't keep things civil I have no qualms locking the thread. Don't let your experience blind you from good advice.

 

Swearing doesn't mean you aren't being rude...
For example, I feel that your attitude is nothing but a pile of bovine deification, google is your friend.

Write up that may help ==> http://goo.gl/mtdYq

 

OMG i am so sorry everyone!! that was my buddy on here he isnt a teacher lol. i talked to him and he said i left my user name and password on his computer so he wanted to ask questions. then i guess some guy pissed him off... so sorry about that. never again lol. me and him have been working on my car for awhile. and we just did a swap. he is frickin nuts lol. i changed the ecu before i got the turbo put on and had it chipped and tuned & dyno. DONT LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID ABOVE HE IS RETARDED!!

 

haha