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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-CIVIC-...item4cfb6f8080

HEY GUYS i recently got a new honda and im going to be adding a turbo to it in the spring and i bought a turbo kit off ebay as i put the link in up above ^^^
So i havea few questions ehre i would like to ask so i don't sound like a new noob
1. What should i be looking for when it comes to adding a turbo kit ?\
2. i was told by andys auto sport and a few guys if im going to be adding 8 pob(pounds of boost).. in my car i can run off of stock injectors and fuel pump ?.
3. i have a 1994 honda civic sedan it has a 1.6 v-tec 5 speed in it hydrolic clutch so if that helps i wantt o find a spec sheet for this so i can do this the right way im going to be speding the winter researching and doing other things of that then spring time im going to finish building the car.
4. can someone help me figure everything out the right way if i run into some issues and cant figure it out my self ?..
if anyone can help or piont me in the right direction then i would really thank you for that ...
also here is my number 1-469-274-0919.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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you are dumb for buying that turbo kit plain and simple you did no reasherch what so ever and you think its just a bolt on affair
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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Return the kit...
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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you are dumb for buying that turbo kit plain and simple you did no reasherch what so ever and you think its just a bolt on affair

like you were all knowing and knowledgable when you started lol
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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iv seen the bolt on kits done correctly but theirs always gonna be misc parts you will need....as long as the turbo doesn't just dump oil you should be fine just keep the boost and expectations low

and you will still need some sort of tuning
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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well try and return it do your research we all started some where yes .
look though the FAQ and then ask
good luck
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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You could keep the intercooler, charge pipes, and maybe add some better welds to the manifold. Then work on getting a good turbo, BOV, and WG. but should really upgrade inj. and pump. plus a tune obviously. just trying to help.

but yes, next time do more research.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Hi kc12305,
That's is great you got "nice" turbo kit for only 600$... Normally this is price of nice intercooler...
Now you need to start working on your engine if you are really "going to be adding 8 pob(pounds of boost)..." Stock injectors and fuel pump you most likely will blow your D16 no time...
Even if you will try run on stock internals I would still get at list 345 cc injectors, walbro 190 fuel pump, ARP bolts and AEM fpr...
Also there is one more problem with stock D16 engine, your Compression at 9.4:1 which is still high compression for turbocharger...
Do the research and get your car ready for that T3/T4...
Good luck!
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexpro
Also there is one more problem with stock D16 engine, your Compression at 9.4:1 which is still high compression for turbocharger...

Good luck!

Tuning has come a long way...
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kc12305
1. What should i be looking for when it comes to adding a turbo kit?
Brand name parts. Cheap eBay turbos are garbage. You need a good turbo (Garret, Precision, etc). You need a high quality wastegate and BoV (Tial, Greddy, etc)

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2. i was told by andys auto sport and a few guys if im going to be adding 8 pob(pounds of boost).. in my car i can run off of stock injectors and fuel pump?
Sounds like you were misinformed. You need a larger fuel pump (Walbro 255 works great) and larger injectors. You also need a TUNE. That cannot be overstated. Also, unless you know the exact turbo you are talking about, 8 psi means nothing. What is your horsepower goal?

Originally Posted by kc12305
3. i have a 1994 honda civic sedan it has a 1.6 v-tec 5 speed in it hydrolic clutch so if that helps i wantt o find a spec sheet for this so i can do this the right way im going to be speding the winter researching and doing other things of that then spring time im going to finish building the car.
What trim level is your car? What specific engine? It will be stamped on the engine block and be parsed similar to D16Z6, B16A2, etc.


Originally Posted by kc12305
4. can someone help me figure everything out the right way if i run into some issues and cant figure it out my self ?..
if anyone can help or piont me in the right direction then i would really thank you for that ...
also here is my number 1-469-274-0919.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/%2A%2A%2Aforced-induction-forum-faq%2A%2A%2A-1024174/

Read those links, then use the advanced search for any questions you may have. If you can't find the information you're looking for, then ask a tech question in the forums.

Also, you may not want to post your phone number...you can't trust people on the internet with info like that
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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wow thanks guys .......not really what i was looking for
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Keep the manifold, intercooler, piping, oil catch and trash everything else or sell it.

Originally Posted by Alexpro
Hi kc12305,
That's is great you got "nice" turbo kit for only 600$... Normally this is price of nice intercooler...
Now you need to start working on your engine if you are really "going to be adding 8 pob(pounds of boost)..." Stock injectors and fuel pump you most likely will blow your D16 no time...
Even if you will try run on stock internals I would still get at list 345 cc injectors, walbro 190 fuel pump, ARP bolts and AEM fpr...
Also there is one more problem with stock D16 engine, your Compression at 9.4:1 which is still high compression for turbocharger...
Do the research and get your car ready for that T3/T4...
Good luck!
^^Please don't listen to this guy.^^
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kc12305
wow thanks guys .......not really what i was looking for
What were you expecting to get from this thread? Just a heads up: if it's anything that you can find in the turbo FAQ, most people here won't bother spoon-feeding you.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexpro
Hi kc12305,
That's is great you got "nice" turbo kit for only 600$... Normally this is price of nice intercooler...
Now you need to start working on your engine if you are really "going to be adding 8 pob(pounds of boost)..." Stock injectors and fuel pump you most likely will blow your D16 no time...
Even if you will try run on stock internals I would still get at list 345 cc injectors, walbro 190 fuel pump, ARP bolts and AEM fpr...
Also there is one more problem with stock D16 engine, your Compression at 9.4:1 which is still high compression for turbocharger...
Do the research and get your car ready for that T3/T4...
Good luck!
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
haha legit just lol by that video clip
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sanman000719
you are dumb for buying that turbo kit plain and simple you did no reasherch what so ever and you think its just a bolt on affair

like you were all knowing and knowledgable when you started lol
i wasn't and im still not all knowing you're right and i agree 100% but i knew that there are FI forums on the internet and such a thing called google... when i was building my audi i looked at ebay and was like wow all that for 400 dollars but i stopped myself and actually researched before i even said a word on the Audi forum than i actually asked legit questions Ie what injectors would be best for my trim of turbo questions that actually made sense not

Hey guys i bought this AWESOME RICER Turbo that will blow in probably 2 days after i put it on because i wont tune my car because i don't even know what tuning is ill just slap a chip in my ECU because that's what everyone is telling me to do I have done no research BUT DON'T FLAME ME because i like to be spoon fed all my answers because i am on the internet but i am to lazy to go to google and actually do my own search because its much easier to come to HT and ask because i'm new...

I'm sorry OP but you did nothing to even find out basic stuff about forced Induction you just went on ebay typed in Turbo kit honda found the cheapest one and was like deal and bought it.. you threw away your money, my manifold cost me 700 dollars for my audi alone when i built it a lot of people think turbos are cheap because its a honda that's why they end up at the local junkyards here and allow me to collect parts for my projects

now you're going to be like

"Wrona quit hatin home dawg i haz a hella mad JDM Turbo kit that will run 10PSI because andys auto sport (overpriced ebay parts most ricers buy there) told me i can run 8psi" PSI doenst mean **** because one turbo on 8psi will make more horsepower than a smaller turbo

you needed a reality check next time dont expect to be spoon fed
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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well i didnt even do the above i was given the turbo kit from my grampa and i didn't want to bitch im not a creedy person all i wanted is to ask what i thought was right the only bad thing i did so far was ask this forum what i was curious about and this forum witch has nothing but rude and qucik to judge people on it some ppl are nice on here but from what i saw its has nothing but that
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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why did this double post!!!!
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kc12305
i was given the turbo kit from my grampa and i didn't want to bitch im not a creedy person all i wanted is to ask what i thought was right
im sorry but you can not keep a story straight. Now your saying your grandfather gave you the turbo kit when the OP you said you bought it? You really should stop back peddling and get rid of the kit and save money over the winter and do it right instead of blowing up your motor and spending more money. Jumiping into a turbo build not knowing anything could possiably be a bad outcome. It takes alot more than just bolting stuff on. i am giving you a 90% chance of a as of what i have read as of now.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Hey kc12305, you can ignore this post like jdmadam said but ill give you little guide on your D16 build if you still down for it...
In the fist place you need to build your engine, D16 not a best engine for putting money in but its probably cheapest one to build.
So first get low compression pistons, I found some on ebay for 135$ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/YCP-Vitara-P...item2a14d04085). Not JE but will save you 300$ at list...
Sense you will have to take rods off your crankshaft you need to get Main and Rod Bearings (Standard ) im guessing you wont be machining you crank so don't buy over sized ...
Not sure how much HP you D-series rods will hold but I would get something better then your stock ones, I'd go with Scat Connecting Rods 300$ (http://www.cimotorsports.net/motor-s...t65394187.html)
Next thing you will need is new head gasket, found one here also http://www.cimotorsports.net/motor-s...civic-d16.html )
Bolt down you head on ARP head bolts with proper torque spec... DO NOT REUSE YOUR STOCK BOLTS!!! (About 100-170$ depending on where you buy those.)
Get new timing belt sense you will take your head off.
Injectors and fuel pump is really important for turbocharging your car, with small injectors you will lean your engine out. Get 440cc just to be safe, will cost you about 150$ of ebay... For the fuel pump go with Walbro 255LPR-90$(I know I said 190 before but sense you building your engine go with 255.)
Now to get that working get AEM's Honda/Acura Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator, about 150$ new... don't buy cheap crap "Made in China" those most likely to leak...
Also need Fuel Pressure Gauge-50$
I've noticed you got cheap 15$ boost controller, get rid of that... get something better... like Turbo XS Standard Boost Controller -75$ or something reliable...
Your ECU needs to be chipped so look on ebay, I would buy RICH-TUNED ecu...
One more thing I would buy, would be 2.5" exhaust if you dont have one already...
Last one: Dyno! abut 450$ depending on what your local shop will charge you.


So from what was said above... you looking at 1000$-1500$ in parts if you do all the labor your self.
This was based on D16Y8 engine so this is just to give you some idea... I didnt mentioned some things like honing your cylider walls or doing work on your head... Do the reserch on each step you take...
Every one welcome to put there buck fifty in!
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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^REALLY!! a FAIL-PRO gasket over OEM?
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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You dont need a FPR...you should be running OEm pressure and adjusting youre injectors for more fuel...Adding more fuel pressure isnt the best method to increase fuel...If you need more fuel get bigger injectors. Mine as well get bigger then 440cc for future growth.

you will need alot more then just a chipped ECU on Ebay. ( although a chipped ecu is needed for chrome, ectune, ect) Get a standalone system, if Youre trying to cheap out on everything then dont turbo it. There are ways to save money but Cheap and simple can get Expensive and complicated really Fast especially with youre first build when youre still learning.

Also stick to OEM gaskets, headgaskets, manifolds ect.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Builda'Teg_92, Your are right on OEM... that was just cheapest I found... although OEM even cheaper...
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Also i dont know why you would go threw all the time of a turbo build and buy forged rods just to put some cast pistons in.
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