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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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Default Ideal Turbo Set up for B18c?

Whats up guys, I plan on turboing a 94 B18c w/ around 95-100k..runs strong..going to do a compression test soon to make sure everything is 100%..has LSD pretty much bone stock...in your opinion whats a good turbo to go with? My power goals are 250whp minimum...with a 300whp max....ideal would be 270whpish...but I want this to run safely as I plan on taking the car to a lot of places so I'm willing to sacrifice power for reliability. I'm a turbo noob any input on recommended turbo parts would be great.

What I have so far:

Ebay Intercooler w/ piping...thinking of upgrading the intercooler to an all black mishimoto and I know I've heard ebay cuplers were trash so im upgrading those as well

Tial Wastegate spring unknown..got it in a trade..will be buying appropriate spring

450 DSM intejectors..sent out to be cleaned and put new o-rings

5 speed p28..most likely going to chip and run on chrome or whatever the chosen tuner
prefers

ARP Headstuds

Cometic headgasket




What I was thinking of getting:

Cash Iron manifold

Edelbrock Victor X intake Manifold w/ hondata or blox gasket

Precision Journal Bearing turbo .57 trim

Earls lines and fittings

HKS SSQ BOV

An oil catch can? is it necessary for my numbers?

any help or experience you guys have with these parts or others would be great..I'm looking for a turbo that will have a nice torque curve. Not something too big that won't spool fully til 5-6k rpm...Looking mainly to have a little fun with this set up not looking to race all the time and beat the crap out of it...reliability is still a must..It will prob see the track once or twice just to see what it runs...track time goal would have to be in the 13s- high 12s....thanks guys

p.s Not really looking to change too much of the internals..will consider dual valve springs but i've heard GSR cams are the best OEM cam to go with..again not looking for real high numbers ..so i figured stock internals would be ok.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 08:24 AM
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Whats up guys, I plan on turboing a 94 B18c w/ around 95-100k..runs strong..going to do a compression test soon to make sure everything is 100%..has LSD pretty much bone stock...in your opinion whats a good turbo to go with? My power goals are 250whp minimum...with a 300whp max....ideal would be 270whpish...but I want this to run safely as I plan on taking the car to a lot of places so I'm willing to sacrifice power for reliability. I'm a turbo noob any input on recommended turbo parts would be great.

What I have so far:

Ebay Intercooler w/ piping...thinking of upgrading the intercooler to an all black mishimoto and I know I've heard ebay cuplers were trash so im upgrading those as well

Tial Wastegate spring unknown..got it in a trade..will be buying appropriate spring

450 DSM intejectors..sent out to be cleaned and put new o-rings

5 speed p28..most likely going to chip and run on chrome or whatever the chosen tuner
prefers

ARP Headstuds

Cometic headgasket




What I was thinking of getting:

Cash Iron manifold

Edelbrock Victor X intake Manifold w/ hondata or blox gasket

Precision Journal Bearing turbo .57 trim

Earls lines and fittings

HKS SSQ BOV

An oil catch can? is it necessary for my numbers?

any help or experience you guys have with these parts or others would be great..I'm looking for a turbo that will have a nice torque curve. Not something too big that won't spool fully til 5-6k rpm...Looking mainly to have a little fun with this set up not looking to race all the time and beat the crap out of it...reliability is still a must..It will prob see the track once or twice just to see what it runs...track time goal would have to be in the 13s- high 12s....thanks guys

p.s Not really looking to change too much of the internals..will consider dual valve springs but i've heard GSR cams are the best OEM cam to go with..again not looking for real high numbers ..so i figured stock internals would be ok.

Garrett T3/t4oe 50 trim will give you a little more then youre max goal and a better spool then 57 trim. If you plan on doing more then 300 in the near future get the 57 trim. if 300 is max get the 50 you will have a better powerband

Stick with OEM Headgasket dont get cometic

Catch can is not needed but def recomended. Gsr cams are fine and dual valve springs wouldnt hurt especially if oem have 100k on them

i would get bigger injectors the dsm 450. Get some Rc 750 so you have room for future growth.

Youre budget plays a big factor. Make sure you put money aside for tuning as this is the best money spent
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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no need for the intake mani

i would also tell you too go with the 50trim

im running a 57trim garret 60a/r stage 3 wheel and a turbonetics bell inlet and i still dont full spool untill 4k range at 353whp

i have a bud with a Precision 50trim spools so much faster around the 250whp range
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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should be even better with precisions billet 50 trim that's now out. also agree with the other posts, 450s are a bit small, the victor x isn't needed and you should have no problem with your goal. something like a .7 bar spring should put you near or at that 300whp goal
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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aftermarket fuel pump also and fuel pressure regulator
anything over 220 hp its a must. a walbro255 is dirt cheap and easy to put in a dc2.
oem headgasket x2
oem intake manifold x2
would alsogo with the cast manifold reliable and cheap.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cleansi
aftermarket fuel pump also and fuel pressure regulator
anything over 220 hp its a must. a walbro255 is dirt cheap and easy to put in a dc2.
oem headgasket x2
oem intake manifold x2
would alsogo with the cast manifold reliable and cheap.
fuel pressure regulator?

why? in 99% of our cars there is no need for one
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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thanks so much for the input guys...I'm looking to piece together the kit in the next 2-3 weeks and have it all in by Jan-Feb hopefully...yup I'm going to get it either tuned locally or by Jeff Evans..hes a very reputable tuner so we'll see. Would the victor x mani only make a difference in higher hp set up? or is the GSR one just very comparable given my power goals? Also any opinions on a clutch? I have an Exedy stage one and its greatttttt....but i was thinking about going with a competition stage 3 or 4 w/ a 12lb or resurfaced OEM..
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Also I've been advised to remove the butterflys from the stock intake manifold...any thought on that?
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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For the power you're trying to do, no. You're fine.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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For the power you're trying to do, no. You're fine.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Hasports or just stick with OEM mounts and inserts?
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For your power OEM is fine
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 04:44 AM
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Default Re: Ideal Turbo Set up for B18c?

Originally Posted by racebum
fuel pressure regulator?

why? in 99% of our cars there is no need for one
depending on fuel set up raise fuel pressure,mine is at 55psi with 750cc and 255
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cleansi
depending on fuel set up raise fuel pressure,mine is at 55psi with 750cc and 255
again, why? it's money spent on a part that's only useful when you don't have enough injector for a given hp level. if a person simply buys the correct size for their hp level they quickly become unnecessary
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Originally Posted by racebum
again, why? it's money spent on a part that's only useful when you don't have enough injector for a given hp level. if a person simply buys the correct size for their hp level they quickly become unnecessary
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Originally Posted by DC2kid21
Whats up guys, I plan on turboing a 94 B18c w/ around 95-100k..runs strong..going to do a compression test soon to make sure everything is 100%..has LSD pretty much bone stock...in your opinion whats a good turbo to go with? My power goals are 250whp minimum...with a 300whp max....ideal would be 270whpish...but I want this to run safely as I plan on taking the car to a lot of places so I'm willing to sacrifice power for reliability. I'm a turbo noob any input on recommended turbo parts would be great.

What I have so far:

Ebay Intercooler w/ piping...thinking of upgrading the intercooler to an all black mishimoto and I know I've heard ebay cuplers were trash so im upgrading those as well

Tial Wastegate spring unknown..got it in a trade..will be buying appropriate spring

450 DSM intejectors..sent out to be cleaned and put new o-rings

5 speed p28..most likely going to chip and run on chrome or whatever the chosen tuner
prefers

ARP Headstuds

Cometic headgasket




What I was thinking of getting:

Cash Iron manifold

Edelbrock Victor X intake Manifold w/ hondata or blox gasket

Precision Journal Bearing turbo .57 trim

Earls lines and fittings

HKS SSQ BOV

An oil catch can? is it necessary for my numbers?

any help or experience you guys have with these parts or others would be great..I'm looking for a turbo that will have a nice torque curve. Not something too big that won't spool fully til 5-6k rpm...Looking mainly to have a little fun with this set up not looking to race all the time and beat the crap out of it...reliability is still a must..It will prob see the track once or twice just to see what it runs...track time goal would have to be in the 13s- high 12s....thanks guys

p.s Not really looking to change too much of the internals..will consider dual valve springs but i've heard GSR cams are the best OEM cam to go with..again not looking for real high numbers ..so i figured stock internals would be ok.





Hopefully your tuner recommends hondata S300. Its way worth it
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by vtecmasta85
Hopefully your tuner recommends hondata S300. Its way worth it
Was thinking about it, any opinion on why? I know it has boost by gear and stuff but since im not going for high numbers, i figured chrome would be ok
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Because CROME is not supported by many people in case you need to remap or send files for any reason. HP number have nothing to do with using a quality system that has hardware and software support. Get the right parts and management now, and you'll not have to ever worry about it later.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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in other words talk to your local tuner. i've seen a few really good cars running crome pro, gringotegra comes to mind, but if it's not supported in your area, it's worthless. hondata is probably the most widely used and has the most support nationwide.

long story short: talk to tuner
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Default Re: Ideal Turbo Set up for B18c?

Originally Posted by DC2kid21
Also I've been advised to remove the butterflys from the stock intake manifold...any thought on that?
the butterfly's in the manifold will stay open if you remove the vacuum line on the purge solenoid. you dont half to gut the plate.

using a single runner design is better though, like a blox or skank2
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 04:28 AM
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thanks for the info guys...any input on a manifold that would allow me to keep power steering?
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Originally Posted by jasoncrashtech
the butterfly's in the manifold will stay open if you remove the vacuum line on the purge solenoid. you dont half to gut the plate.

using a single runner design is better though, like a blox or skank2
Again. for his power goal, not necessary to change. There are those over 400whp with the stock IM of the GS-R
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Originally Posted by DC2kid21
thanks for the info guys...any input on a manifold that would allow me to keep power steering?
Most Schedule 10 log manifolds, and some cast manifolds.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Would a JDM GSR tranny's LSD be ok for 280whp? ..don't really want to drop $1000 on a quaife
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Would a JDM GSR tranny's LSD be ok for 280whp? ..don't really want to drop $1000 on a quaife
It won't operate in the way you think because it is a TORSEN LSD and not a Helical like a Quaife. The wheels have to experience a turn before the OEM LSD works properly.

I recommend a MFactory Helical LSD. Very good product and less than $700
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