is dropping ITR cams in my stock B18C1 a good idea? here's why I ask:

-no possible tuning can be done anywhere near me (no dyno, no tuner, bad shops)
-no cam gears, cause I can't tune them anyways

but I was thinking about getting a P72 chip that sets VTEC at 5700rpm and still controls my secondaries on the stock IM and has improved fuel, etc..

Is this a good idea? how much HP can I net with this setup? I am pondering this idea cause I can't tune them, so I don't know if I should scrap this idea. The only thing I can get is a chip.

Thanks!

 

ITR cams will work fine as a straight drop in. I had my R cams in for about 6mos before tuning and other than my timing be too advanced, until I set it back to stock setting, I had no problems.

As for the chip, a 5700 x-over seems a bit too high for mild R cams. I've set it from 4900 to 5200rpm. I believe your secondaries open up at about 5700-5800rpm. So I'd say skip the chip and get a VTEC controller.

As for hp, with I/H/E I got about 162whp and 119wtq before tuning. That was gain of about 7whp. Numbers will vary from car to car but expect about 6-8hp more ponies to the wheel with no tuning. But you really feel a difference with the cams all the way to redline.

 

well, I don't know about the vtec controller, its a little bit outta my range and its pretty much useless to me since I can't tune it.. but, i thought the ITR's vtec x-over was at 5700rpm? thats why I thought 5700rpm would be a good idea..

to pretty much sum it up, all I have is enough for cams and a chip.. no s-vfc, cam gears, skunk2 IM.. thats why I am wondering if its worth it.. cause I know for sure it'll be better than intake/header.

 

i dont know what the vtec x-over for the R is but i know that you will get a little more power. Not as much as the skunk2 stage 1 but will get better power over stock. but to make the most of the cams you should build up and upgrade the rest of your valve train. Also if a vafc controler is too much how much did you get the cams for cause they cost more than a vafc.?

 

well, the cams and s-vfc cost the same.. but I can't afford both and i'd rather get the cams cause I can't use the s-vfc to tune..

how much whp is a drop in?

 

I dont think spending 600-1k on cams & valvetrain are worth it.
especially if you cant get your car tuned.

you can tune yourself just takes more money to do it. there are ways about getting datalogging done. then you use your knock sensor and a/f to see how its running

i would look at getting a SMSP header & exhaust from dave. that will give you stronger gains through out the range and wont cause any extra stress on your engine.

btw, I just put in itr cams with upgraded valvetrain that will rev to 10k if i mis shift or in a long corner where i need to stay on the gas
anyway
here is what i did
itr cams, 400
itr outer springs 150 ish
portflow inners 120
portflow ti retainers 160
itr lost motion assymblies 220

thats 1100 ish to give you an idea. you dont need retainers or portflow inners, but you do need itr LMA and springs if you want to rev near 8600ish

this is debateable, but the gsr bottom end isnt as balanced as the itr, meaning it doesnt like to rev as high

 

interesting.. yeah, I don't know if I could afford all of that.. I am currently setting up my suspension.

i was just thinking
ITR cams
intake
header
maybe an exhaust - in the process of selling mine

and an ecu chip