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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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Hey guys first time ever on a 1/4 track ... let me know what you think

Car:
93 Civic HB (DX)
B16a Hydro
DC 4-1 Ceramic header (USDM)
DAC short Ram intake
Tanabe Full stainless catback exhaust (R-spec)
Tires are totaly bald stockies I mean totaly
Full interior + 1 set of golf clubs, 1 suitcase, 1 Floor jack and 1 spair tire

Now the times ... Got two Runs ...

1st run:

R/T .989
60' 2.543
330 6.823
1/8 10.255
MPH 71.43
1000 13.227
1/4 15.784
MPH 87.64

2nd Run

R/T 1.019
60' 2.545
330 6.801
1/8 10.221
mph 71.68
1000 13.169
1/4 15.660
MPH 89.65

I think when I get better at the tree, some better tires ... oh and not 100 lbs of junk in my trunk I could be looking at 14.9's am I dreaming or is that a possiblity ? thanks .. oh and take it easy on me I have never raced on a track before !!!
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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The rule of thumb is: Every tenth you drop on your 60 ft, will drop 2 tenths off your 1/4 time.
So considering you are running mid 15's w/ 2.5 60fts. I think high 14's are possible with more traction/practice.
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 02:44 PM
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14's are definetly possible. try getting some good sticky tires, less weight and u should drop those times down no problem.
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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golf clubs add hp... dont take it out.

u get better traction...i can def see you doing 14's. its not a dream... say hello to reality


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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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yeah u should be able to hit low 15's or high 14's. i ran a 16.1 @ 85 in my 90 si with the stock engine with 4-2-1 header, exhaust, intake.
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 08:05 PM
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Thanks for the info guys, as for the tires I have 17 Tenzo RS5's .. this weekend I used my steely's up front,

1st are there slicks that will fit my 13's ?


If not am I better with my 17's and nitto 450's or 13's and a decent set of street tires ? (I understand that the rotational mass of the 17s is a lot more thats why im asking )


Oh and what should I use on the back 17's (roll easier biger and wider) or 13's (spinn faster thinner )
Thanks again

Still dreaming of that 14 sec time slip ... cuz there is so much more room for improvement in this car .. Cams, Intakemanifold, Throtle body, ......... so many mods so little money


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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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i had a bad time at sac becasue i didn't get what i wanted.
96 hatch 96 b18c1 75 shot zex kit (only put 20whp at dyno)
i/h/e msd 2step AEM FPR
all seats taken out
street tires yokohama A550V

R/T: 692
I1 : 2.323
I2 : 6.442
I3 : 9.623
1/4: 14.567
MPH: 97.2

i don't see why i am getting this times what should i do or was it cuz the conditions were too bad on my car. i drove 2 hrs to get to sacramento and then ran my car i dunno just want to know what to work on.


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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Default Re: 1st time ever doing it Legal 1/4 times (JDM_SIR_II)

Hey guys first time ever on a 1/4 track ... let me know what you think

Car:
93 Civic HB (DX)
B16a Hydro
DC 4-1 Ceramic header (USDM)
DAC short Ram intake
Tanabe Full stainless catback exhaust (R-spec)
Tires are totaly bald stockies I mean totaly
Full interior + 1 set of golf clubs, 1 suitcase, 1 Floor jack and 1 spair tire

1/4 15.660
MPH 89.65
Not to dishearten you or anything, but i owned a 96 CX hatch with a hydro B16A and on street tires, full interior with just a homemade intake was able to pull a 14.4
my buddy witha 94 GSR hit a 14.2 i think it was with just a homemade intake and some free mods...but with full interior and street tires. There is time there, but don't worry about the tree just yet. I'd get used to launching and stuff, don't worry about the car next to you, worry about yourself and you will get better, then learn the tree.

You can do better i'm sure... what were you launching at? what type of tires do you have on the car, and @ what psi? I'm sure you can delve into the mid 14s with just a few tricks.

ps... why the hell did you run down the track with all that crap in your car?
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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HA ... Like the other guys said the golf clubs add hp !!!! actuly I really wasent planning on racing. I was in town visiting a buddy when another friend called to tell me bout the races. I said sure why not. ....

The street tires are junk ... When I did my swap I gave my old car to my buddy ( It was totaled and I figured it was worth it sence he let me use his garage to do the swap for free) he tossed me a set of stock tires to use to get home, they are way old with NO TRED at all ... the side walls are cracked from sun damage ..if I make it to the 15th (payday) so I can buy some new tires I will be very happy.


No offence taken a 14.4 is an amazing time in a 96 hb with just a home made intake and full interior .. This was my first time racing on the strip. Just means I need more practice .. And I was looking here for some tips
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 04:35 PM
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any thoughts on the tires ??!?!?
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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up front get some sticky street drag radials..any like bfgoodrich or nittos i'd personally go for the bf's though
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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When I was using regular radials I was a good 4 tenths slower due to wheel spin.

Traction matters and I would suggest a pair of BFG drag radials. I LOVE mine.

I cut a 2.08 on 17 psi my third time to the track with them. They are no joke. But I wouldnt reccomend using them as daily tires cause they wouldnt last long.

An EG chassis with a hydro B16 should be easily into the 14's with traction deeper into them if you lose the A/C and powersteering crap.

Keep your rear tires up at 40-44 psi and the fronts at 22-23 psi on streets, 12-17 psi for drag radials and skip the slicks for right now....dont risk breaking parts for a few tenths over drag radials.

With that I think a solid 14.2-14.4 is totally possible.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Get some new tires as soon as possible!
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 12:21 AM
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Thanks for the info ... and btw ... ac and ps were gone a long long time ago
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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That does not make sence. You should be getting better times then that. Last time I went to the Track I ran a 15.79 with my SOHC in my EX Coupe with Bald *** Tires.
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 02:45 PM
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i had a bad time at sac becasue i didn't get what i wanted.
96 hatch 96 b18c1 75 shot zex kit (only put 20whp at dyno)
i/h/e msd 2step AEM FPR
all seats taken out
street tires yokohama A550V

R/T: 692
I1 : 2.323
I2 : 6.442
I3 : 9.623
1/4: 14.567
MPH: 97.2

i don't see why i am getting this times what should i do or was it cuz the conditions were too bad on my car. i drove 2 hrs to get to sacramento and then ran my car i dunno just want to know what to work on.


[Modified by EGkTiOn_CiViC, 9:42 PM 10/6/2002]
Dude you should be getting better times then that. I ran a 15.79 on my SOHC VTEC civic on shitty tires and I have Bolt-ons. I am going to be putting on a 75 SHOT NX kit I will let you know what times I will be getting. By the way those times I got at Sac Raceway. I also have to drive 2 hours to get there. Where do you live?
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 1st time ever doing it Legal 1/4 times (JDM_SIR_II)

I've seen b16 Hatch's run mid to low 14's no 13" slicks. Get some it's the key.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 04:36 AM
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I run a 14.2 in my 92 VX hatch with a B16 with a 2.1 60ft on nittos. Almost same bolt on's too (AEM CAI, DC 4-1, Greddy SP). Get some sticky tires. Although my first run ever with the car (full interior, 16's, no TPS ) I ran a 14.9 with a 2.4 60ft.
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 06:50 PM
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i know a girl that did 14.5 in her Ek....and it was a b16a
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 05:44 AM
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Default Re: 1st time ever doing it Legal 1/4 times (Slopoke)

The rule of thumb is: Every tenth you drop on your 60 ft, will drop 2 tenths off your 1/4 time.
So considering you are running mid 15's w/ 2.5 60fts. I think high 14's are possible with more traction/practice.
yes seems right to me. i ran a 15.4 at 89.xx with a 2.4xx 60 ft.
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