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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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Default What can I do to make my windows roll up faster?

My 1994 honda accord is kinda slow on rolling the window up? could this be a problem with the motor itself? There powered windows
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 04:26 AM
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Default Re: What can I do to make my windows roll up faster?

Clean and lubricate the rubber channels with something like 303 or Armor-all and a bunch of qtips.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:06 AM
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Default Re: What can I do to make my windows roll up faster?

the best way is take out the motor that is inside door, and clean it, that is going to increase the power.
The easy way is buy a new one and replace it.

This happened to me too with my 1996
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 05:29 AM
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Clean and lubricate the rubber channels with something like 303 or Armor-all and a bunch of qtips.
Right idea, not the products I would use though...

For the rubber trim/molding, you should look at using ShinEtsu grease from Honda. It's a silicone based grease meant for rejuvenating and lubricating rubber trim (used on like NSX's and S2000's for their targa/convertible tops)

In addition to that, look at getting a white lithium grease for the metal rails after thoroughly cleaning the gunk that has built up in them.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 06:34 AM
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I use silicone spray on the rubber channels every winter, but TheMuffinMan's product is probably better. It might even last more than a few months!
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 07:06 AM
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Dannyboy,

Since the power window motor is relatively inexpensive it may be more viable of an idea to outright replace the whole assembly rather than simply clean it. After all, you'll be going through all the trouble of removing the motor from the door so why not ensure that the motor will function properly by installing a new unit?

Anywhoo, if you do decide to clean or replace the window motor then this succinct guide may be of assistance to you:


1) Remove the door pad and inner moisture barrier.

2) If working on the rear window of a sedan, remove the two upper screws securing the center channel. Remove the two lower bolts (in the door) securing the channel and remove it. On some cars, the two screws are concealed below the weatherstrip.

3) For sedan rear doors, remove the quarter glass. The entire glass and rubber seal may be removed as an assembly from the door.

4) Lower the door glass until the glass mounting bolts are accessible. One will be easily seen in the large access hole in the door; the other will appear in the smaller, round access hole. Remove the bolts.

5) Stand next to the inside of the door. Tilt the door glass and remove it through the slot.

6) On front doors, remove the bolts securing the front run channel, then remove the channel.

7) Remove the regulator mounting bolts and remove the regulator. On later models, there are additional roller guide bolts to be removed. Mark the roller guide mounting bolts to ease window alignment later.

8) Remove the motor from the regulator.


--Installation--


1) Inspect the regulator carefully for any sign of damage or binding. Grease all the sliding surfaces of the regulator before installation.

2) Compress the regulator gear by hand. When in position, install the motor with the collar and mounting bolt.

3) Check the position of the breather pipe on power window motors; it must be correctly mounted to keep water out of the motor.

4) Install the regulator.

5) Install the front door run channel. Tighten the bolts until just snug.

6) Fit the glass into position inside the door. Set it loosely on the regulator.

7) Adjust the position of the regulator until the glass mounting bolts align with the access holes. On power windows, connect the wiring and operate the window switch briefly to move the regulator.

8) Install the glass mounting bolts and tighten until just snug. Operate the window up and down, checking the placement of the glass and the front run channel. Make adjustments as necessary.

9) Tighten the front run channel bolts and tighten the glass mounting bolts.
For sedan rear doors, install the quarter glass and the center channel. Tighten the mounting bolts until snug.

10) Double check the operation of the window in all regards. It should move smoothly and evenly, sealing completely when closed.

11) Reinstall the liner and door panel.



*diagram courtesy of hondapartsnow.com; all rights reserved
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Default Re: What can I do to make my windows roll up faster?

Originally Posted by techtalk
Dannyboy,

Since the power window motor is relatively inexpensive it may be more viable of an idea to outright replace the whole assembly rather than simply clean it. After all, you'll be going through all the trouble of removing the motor from the door so why not ensure that the motor will function properly by installing a new unit?

Anywhoo, if you do decide to clean or replace the window motor then this succinct guide may be of assistance to you:


1) Remove the door pad and inner moisture barrier.

2) If working on the rear window of a sedan, remove the two upper screws securing the center channel. Remove the two lower bolts (in the door) securing the channel and remove it. On some cars, the two screws are concealed below the weatherstrip.

3) For sedan rear doors, remove the quarter glass. The entire glass and rubber seal may be removed as an assembly from the door.

4) Lower the door glass until the glass mounting bolts are accessible. One will be easily seen in the large access hole in the door; the other will appear in the smaller, round access hole. Remove the bolts.

5) Stand next to the inside of the door. Tilt the door glass and remove it through the slot.

6) On front doors, remove the bolts securing the front run channel, then remove the channel.

7) Remove the regulator mounting bolts and remove the regulator. On later models, there are additional roller guide bolts to be removed. Mark the roller guide mounting bolts to ease window alignment later.

8) Remove the motor from the regulator.


--Installation--


1) Inspect the regulator carefully for any sign of damage or binding. Grease all the sliding surfaces of the regulator before installation.

2) Compress the regulator gear by hand. When in position, install the motor with the collar and mounting bolt.

3) Check the position of the breather pipe on power window motors; it must be correctly mounted to keep water out of the motor.

4) Install the regulator.

5) Install the front door run channel. Tighten the bolts until just snug.

6) Fit the glass into position inside the door. Set it loosely on the regulator.

7) Adjust the position of the regulator until the glass mounting bolts align with the access holes. On power windows, connect the wiring and operate the window switch briefly to move the regulator.

8) Install the glass mounting bolts and tighten until just snug. Operate the window up and down, checking the placement of the glass and the front run channel. Make adjustments as necessary.

9) Tighten the front run channel bolts and tighten the glass mounting bolts.
For sedan rear doors, install the quarter glass and the center channel. Tighten the mounting bolts until snug.

10) Double check the operation of the window in all regards. It should move smoothly and evenly, sealing completely when closed.

11) Reinstall the liner and door panel.



*diagram courtesy of hondapartsnow.com; all rights reserved
techtalk aka onmyownaccord,

Some of these generic copy and paste instructions do not apply.

Even if someone was replacing the power window regulator, there is no need to remove the glass, it can be held up with tape or something. Additionally, the motor generally does not come off the regulator, it is assembled unit.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Flagmichael
I use silicone spray on the rubber channels every winter, but TheMuffinMan's product is probably better. It might even last more than a few months!
The ShinEtsu grease is silicone based so you've got the right idea.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: What can I do to make my windows roll up faster?

I would personally just change it out for a brand NEW one. its only about $40. Thats just me though. i prefer nice and new over old and worn in!!
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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Techtalk- I have to agree with Redbull, this looks, reads like a copy and paste from some place....and I really have to question "that place"......have you ever really done any work on a car before?

OP-Back on topic....personally, I'd clean and lube the channels and that first. The greese muffinman speaks of is kind of costly (~$14 last time I looked), but it is some of the best stuff I have seen for this (and other things)...
http://www.handa-accessories.com/accmaint00.html
Scroll down almost to the bottom of the page
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Default Re: What can I do to make my windows roll up faster?

Wait a sec Lost Again,
Of course it's a cut a paste from a manual! You think the guys going to sit and type explicit instructions when 90% of whats applicable is right there in the diagram? Come on Man, Give the guy a break, he's just trying to help the guy out. Because he cut and pasted some info doesn't mean he's never worked on a car?
The assumption is the poster has rudamentary knowledge or he wouldn't be asking, he'd just go to a mechanic and spend money. The fact that he took the time to "cut and paste" the diagram and steps is plenty. Now the OP can decide if he wants to spend on a new motor or resusitate the old one.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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Default Re: What can I do to make my windows roll up faster?

Originally Posted by Steve Z
Wait a sec Lost Again,
Of course it's a cut a paste from a manual! You think the guys going to sit and type explicit instructions when 90% of whats applicable is right there in the diagram? Come on Man, Give the guy a break, he's just trying to help the guy out. Because he cut and pasted some info doesn't mean he's never worked on a car?
The assumption is the poster has rudamentary knowledge or he wouldn't be asking, he'd just go to a mechanic and spend money. The fact that he took the time to "cut and paste" the diagram and steps is plenty. Now the OP can decide if he wants to spend on a new motor or resusitate the old one.
Well, this is a little off-topic. That poster goes by another username on a couple other forums. His M.O. is the same though. He copies and paste generic instructions that many times are not applicable to that person's car, including incorrect and unnecessary steps which may mislead a person. Some of his info. is false; however, that is another story... By just posting a diagram without the phoney info. would more than suffice... On another forum, some of his misleading posts were deleted; however, some still exists.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Hello there......new at this forum.
I agree with the users who think that the complete window regulator/motor assembly should be replaced.........i have done some cleaning and lubicating in the rails and don't really work............regulator/motor assemble it's only about 85 to 95 bucks.........and thats the end of the problem.........installed that is.
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Default Re: What can I do to make my windows roll up faster?

Thank you all for your input this was very helpful. I ended up lubricating the rubber trim with Shin-Etsu grease and it works extremely well. Thanks again
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyBoy310
Thank you all for your input this was very helpful. I ended up lubricating the rubber trim with Shin-Etsu grease and it works extremely well. Thanks again
That saved you some money man...............really glad it worked for you Danny!

Last edited by ELGEORGEKBRON; Oct 29, 2011 at 01:59 PM. Reason: incorrect spelling
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Old Oct 30, 2011 | 04:02 AM
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Ok then sorry about the flame. Didn't realise that posters info was suspect.

Chalk another one up for the Muffin man! Always good posts and on point.
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