i am stuck between deciding whether to get the euro r or the f20b

i need some help with suggestions reasoning and specs or just plain out this is why kind of answer.

thank you

 

H22A Euro R. You won't regret. The transmission that the Euro R has is amazing too.

No replacement for displacement.

 

the euro r has the t2w4 tranny correct?.

why should i go with the euro r over the f20b

im not really knowledgeable on the euro r motor but i know there is only like a 10hp difference..

 

More displacement and more torque.

 

Your probably gonna end up paying more for the H22 but it is a really strong engine, really long gears in the tranny and it has great power and Torque!! For its size its one of the stronger engines out there I would think!!

 

the h22a is a whole 1300$ more.

would the t2w4 tranny fit on the f20b?

also the euro r only has 12 more wtq than the f20b

 

18 more wtq and 20 more hp difference in the motors

 

Go with the H22, you won't regret it. For some reason I'm thinking the Euro R trans will fit on the F series, but not 100% on that one.

 

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f20 is a destroked h22. thats what l was gonna go with until l found out. now that l have the h22 l wish l had done a h23 build with a h22 head. h23 is a stroked out h22 block.

f20b = destroked
h23 = stroked
h22 = middle motor and has potential

 

The best would be the h23vtec with a euro r t2w4 tranny.

 

the h23a?

 

yup h23 reasearch it, its a stroked out h22 thats naturally bored more and more displacement

 

H23A VTEC has the same bore as the H22A @ 87mm as well as the FRM cylinders. However, it does have 4.3mm more stroke and 1.5mm longer rods. Same crank and rods found in all the F22A & B engines.

 

im looking it up right now and i can understand the difference which is great. would it mount up in my car is the question now?

besides more displacement what else is going to benifit from this motor in my 4dr accord

 

Any F20B, F22A or B, H22A, H23A or F23A will mount up in your car.

As for the benefits. The H23A actually has pretty much the same displacement as the F23 engine you have in your car right now. F23A 2254cc and the H23A has 2258cc. Aside from that, it's benefits are that it has 2 cams, more aggressive VTEC, more tq and more horse power.

Some say having DOHC and VTEC equates to better tuning abilities.... Guess it depends on who you talk to.... Myself, I don't think VTEC or DOHC are a big deal at all.

 

understandable. so which bottom line would be the best for the swap? i get that everyone is saying the h23 is obviously better than the f20b

 

Why the swap? Are you set on an all motor build? Loosing the ULEV ECU for a tunable EMS and boosting your F23A would probably get you more power for the same amount as doing one of those swaps.

How much of this work are you planning on doing yourself?

 

just wanting to start something new. i have never done anything with a dohc so now i am wanting to.

i am going to be doing everything myself.

so like i said i havent done anything with dohc so i want to make sure that i get the right motor. i am not looking for an all start motor right off the bat i just want to know which would be better in the long run for a build.

 

Not true; unless, you're running the stock F22 trans on the H22 then gearings will be loooonnng. The T2W4 LSD trans is pretty short and very responsive when combined with the engine its made for. It'll be even shorter if you mate it to any F22 engines.

Yes it'll fit. H & F series trans will interchange no problem. I'm running an F20B T2T4 LSD trans on my JDM H22A.

This right here would be the best combo along with a Euro R intake mani tuned. Damn, it'll be a beast!!

 

If you are looking to play with DOHC. There is also the non VTEC JDM DOHC F22B. It would be a good base if your looking to go boost in the long run. It already has iron sleeves, low compression and your DOHC.

 

sounds good. and thank you everyone for your input.

anyone know of a good place to get a motor from? i know hmotorsonline is reputable. my buddy know steve over at hmo so maybe ill go through there.

anywhere else?

 

You got it, Hmo's the place we tend to hear of the most on this forum. As well as most other Honda forums for that matter.

 

awesome sounds good.

ill keep everyone updated during the swap should have it done and on the road by the end of the month.

 

Good luck