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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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need to know if theres any wiring difference?
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 08:16 PM
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no.....
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (XtraFastCRX)

What are you trying to do? Swap a Si motor into a HF chassis?

If so, the wiring is pretty much exactly the same - just use your old HF harness.

I think some of the harness plugs have slightly different pin locations (between HF & Si). So basically if you use the Si harness, it's prolly not gonna plug into the rest of the HF harness that's in the car....

At least, that's just what I've heard. I've never done any work on HF cars, I only know my '90 Si!

Good Luck
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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Mr todd is right to my knowledge. both engines use mpfi, unless u r talking about 1st gen then the hf's r carbed and are totally diff harnesses than the si. diff config of wires like todd said.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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so an with an 88-91 hf, an si engine would drop right in, no wiring changes?

theres a local hf in really good condition...if i got the si engine tranny (better ratios?) and ecu, it would drop right in no prob...correct me if i'm wrong
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (skud_dusty)

dropping an 88-91 SI motor into an 88-91 HF is completely R+R, even the wiring harness.
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (Fast 1point5)

hf has more sensors than the si...how is wiring the same? i believe there is some kind of changes
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 02:07 AM
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its the same harness,did it about 20 times,just dont run the egr
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 02:12 AM
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Nope, the HF and SI is the same... you don't need to hook up the EGR thats all.


[Modified by SOHC NoTEC, 6:12 AM 10/7/2002]
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (SOHC NoTEC)

There is a sensor on the bottom right of the Si intake manifold the my HF harness has no plug for and the old HF manifold did not have this sonsor... Could there be differences in years??
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (91HATCH)

i got some info from a friendly guy from the hybrid site....

he said that if you plug and play...it will work but will throw codes...

he told me there is six wires at the ecu that hf has that si doesnt need

these are the wires that should be eliminated
A6 - EGR seloniod control
B2 - shift indicator
B7 - clutch switch
B9 - reverse sensor
B11 - heater sensor
C8 - EGR signal
if im wrong please correct me
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 05:28 PM
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there are a couple minor differences....look up...not sure if all are right but there are minor differences
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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what about knucles, arent they different?
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (91HATCH)

I just did a hf to si swap this weekend the only problem I had was left over vacum lines.I had no trouble with wiring.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (vtec crx)

its the same harness,did it about 20 times,just dont run the egr
Agree with this. Did that, done that.
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 05:33 PM
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wat did you do for the wiring?
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (91HATCH)

All of the wiring matced up
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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (ZC'n'it)

any check engine light? can you give me a pic of how you did the vacuum lines?
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (91HATCH)

I don't have any pics to send you .If I remember you should have one or two vac lines.They were the ones that went to the egr which was on the intake.



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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (sirhatchback)

what about knucles, arent they different?
Yup. In order to use the Si tranny w/Si axles, you must install Si knuckles as well.

Once again, I don't have experience to back this up. But I'm pretty sure about this.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 12:46 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (MrTodd)

I need to know if you sure about that??

I am Finaly going to get rid of my HF tranny and will be using an Si tranny and axles so I would like to get a "for sure" answer on that... And if so will the ones off of a 91 civic DX work?? Along with the front breaks.. (I think they are bigger than the HF)
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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Si/DX hubs are definitely different than the HF/STD hubs.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 04:39 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (91civic)

I agree that the hubs are different.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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Default Re: hf to si... (ZC'n'it)

The si tranny should work no problem in a hf chassis even with the old hubs. The trannys are all the same except for some gear ratios. But swap to Si's anyhow. they're bigger to start with an have more aftermarket parts avaible and you wouldn't even have to worry about whether it would work or not.
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