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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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hey ht. well i bought a set of tokico springs i will post the exact model number later. i installed them on kyb shocks and the drop on the rear was perfect but in the front the tire had 2 fingers gap from the fender. I was thinking since its just like an extra inch drop i would like, i can just slightly cut the front springs without drasticly affecting the performance of the spring. i know it will affect it in some way but will it totally mess up the ride? thanks in advance for the help.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 12:12 AM
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dont cut a spring. and are you sure you put them on right.. the rear should set higher then the front, not vice versa.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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Don't cut any springs. It will effect performance and safety.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 02:19 AM
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If you like the old wooden roller coasters. Thats what it would be like. Dont do it. You will regret it.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 02:32 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 02:41 AM
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So you drop somewhat decent money on some springs just to cut them? Stay far away from it, don't do it. Unless you want to make your car ride horrible.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 04:49 AM
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I'm curious, what kind of KYB shocks are they?
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:01 AM
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These kinds of threads inquiring about unsafe practices should not be allowed. They don't allow any threads concerning stretched tires in Wheel and Tire for that reason. This forum should start adopting a similar stance.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:10 AM
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I hear it is fine to cut less than 2 coils off a stock spring without trouble. I also hear you can't cut performance springs because of the way they are designed.
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I hear it is fine to cut less than 2 coils off a stock spring without trouble. I also hear you can't cut performance springs because of the way they are designed.
Are you listening to chemists and engineers on the topic of cold wound spring steel?
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:19 AM
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Nope, I am listening to rat-rodders. I don't trust engineers, they do drugs.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:22 AM
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I didn't know a Civic was a Rat Rod.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:28 AM
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You would be surprised...
http://rat-look.com/image-gallery/ng...-look-2/honda/
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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I'm not referring to a "look". Seen it. I'm talking about trying to apply practices used on antiquated technology on more modern vehicles. It doesn't work.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
I'm not referring to a "look". Seen it. I'm talking about trying to apply practices used on antiquated technology on more modern vehicles. It doesn't work.
And I am saying that on a STOCK spring, it has been successfully done. I know, I have seen it been done. I am saying AFTERMARKET springs shouldn't be cut. A car made in 1995 doesn't exactly have modern technology built into the suspension.
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That would be nice if honda made it's springs that way, but they don't. The real problem with safety in cutting springs is that the "perch" isn't correct. The spring doesn't seat properly into the shock.

And unless you're a blacksmith you're going to have a tough time reshaping the final coil of the spring so that it does fit in the perch.
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Originally Posted by ev94eg
dont cut a spring. and are you sure you put them on right.. the rear should set higher then the front, not vice versa.
yeah im pretty sure i did. the front springs are suppose to be the thicker ones right?
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
These kinds of threads inquiring about unsafe practices should not be allowed. They don't allow any threads concerning stretched tires in Wheel and Tire for that reason. This forum should start adopting a similar stance.
i think that your wrong because people like me create these threads to be safe and not just go ahead and do the "unsafe" practices. i try to do my research and get different opinions on the matter so i can make the right decision and not risk my life or other people's lives.i mean it would be different if my heading was " how can i cut my springs?" but im just wondering what will be happen if i cut them.
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Originally Posted by sohcpoweredeg
but im just wondering what will be happen if i cut them.
I don't think you can qualify yourself as being unique in that you want to do dangerous things more safely. The principle is still the same.

That's like saying: "I'd like to jump off a cliff, but if I wear a helmet and knee pads it's better right?"
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Libertariat
I'm curious, what kind of KYB shocks are they?
i believe they are kyb GR2's.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sohcpoweredeg
i believe they are kyb GR2's.
GR2's don't have very advanced valving as they are more "oem replacements" than designed to handle stiffer rates. By cutting your springs you're likely to blow the shocks. Then you'll be back here asking which shocks to buy to go with your cut springs.

Save up your money, and buy a real suspension kit. Progress CS-II, Koni Srt. + spring/sleeve of your choice, Koni GC, AMR, PIC, there's a host of companies I'd recommend.

Eibach also has several kits, prokit, sportline, etc.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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This method used to be used in the 80s when there was no technologies!!go a head you won't be the first,,,and see why evolution takes place and why retards need special ed!!
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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GR2's don't have very advanced valving as they are more "oem replacements" than designed to handle stiffer rates. By cutting your springs you're likely to blow the shocks. Then you'll be back here asking which shocks to buy to go with your cut springs.

Save up your money, and buy a real suspension kit. Progress CS-II, Koni Srt. + spring/sleeve of your choice, Koni GC, AMR, PIC, there's a host of companies I'd recommend.

Eibach also has several kits, prokit, sportline, etc.
x2 have seem many GR-2s blow under stress. Although, to be fair, my father recently destroyed the front coil springs in our truck and I noticed little ride quality degradation. Drove it that way for close to 10k miles without any problems but we were lucky.

And also lmfao on no technology in the 80s. I forgot the stone ages were that long ago.
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thenext
I hear it is fine to cut less than 2 coils off a stock spring without trouble. I also hear you can't cut performance springs because of the way they are designed.
What? You don't trust engineers, but you trust the guys feeding you this stuff?

OP, YES the thicker springs should be in the front.

There's more weight up there
Old Sep 19, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Tokico springs are designed this way.. IDK why, they just are. I had a set and the same stance happened to me...


sell that set up asap and get some coilovers. youll be alot happier and safer



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