I have a B16B but it doesn't have a serial number. Some people have said it might be spoon but it doesn't have any spoon plaque. How else can i identify it?

 

Yes that is a def a spoon b16b and a spoon trans.

 

how can you tell the trans is spoon?

 

The only way to really know is to rip the engine apart and check the balance of the rotating assembly. If it's within 1g it's probably a spoon engine.

The engines aren't particularly special, just ripped apart by a spoon tech and balanced a bit better than honda does, which is merely for race purposes. When you're racing for 4-10hours at a time you really need a properly balanced engine.

The engines are not more powerful or anything. Just more reliable.

 

For some reason i thought they would have more power because everyone is crazy about spoon parts. But its good to know thank you. As far as the trans does spoon do anything to make them more reliable?

 

Not that I know of, but they might just add carbon synchros. That's about all you can really do to make them last longer.

 

Is there a # stamped (or riveted?) on the tranny or engine?
I could run a partial engine component ID number and tell you.

I did this on my car and found out the tranny isn't original.

I know you don't have a serial # but are there any numbers anywhere else?

 

looks like the exact same stamp with no serial
http://www.nengun.com/spoon/b16b-b18c-complete-engine

 

There is no other numbers on the engine or tranny. Plus its converted to OBD1. I hope its the real thing. I also heard that engines that have no serial numbers are replacement motors from the dealer, but don't really know.

 

The engine isn't converted. The distributor is the only part on the engine that has anything to do with that...and both obdI and obdII dizzy's are the same, with the exceptions of one plug vs two....they even share the same wires

 

Replacement motors have rdot stamped on them

 

and that is a built trans too. stock trans dont have a sticker on them telling what gear is in them

 

The intake manifold is an OBD1 also. OBD2 manifolds have more sensors on them. It also has a spoon grounding kit and a spoon clutch line.

 

OP: Do you plan on putting this in a street car? If you get pulled over, good luck explaining where you got an engine with no serial or VIN #s.

 

I'm glad I live in a state where they don't do that.

We don't even have emissions. The government has never inspected my car.

 

My question is, how did you come across this engine?

 

Just run er. Plain and simple. If you have to pull it apart later look at some #'s then

 

anymore pics of the motor?

 

Bought it from a place where they sell japanese motors.

 

LOL! i know right.

I can take off the valve cover and take a pic later?

 

Good buy. If it is a JDM motor, then for sure it won't have VIN tags on the motor of transmission. Just make sure you keep a copy of the receipt in the car because the Police will for sure give you a hard time. But then they should know that it is a JDM motor before they make any assumption.

 

And just why is it a good buy? And at what price?

 

I'm just saying. If it's a Spoon motor and it's in good shape then it's a good buy. Doesn't really matter what price it's at. Just something special that's all even if it's just the brand.

 

So $125 Armani Exchange T-shirts are inherently a good buy because of the brand?

 

It's just an opinion and you get what you paid for. Spoon is not just a brand. If that is truely a Spoon B16b then it should come with a 1.8L stroker kit, upgraded oil pump, water pump, and details like you said a better balanced crank and torque specs closer than how the Honda techs does it. Basically it will be a B18c with a B16b stamp on the block and put together with higher quality control than Honda factory. It's not going to make any more power then a Honda factory B18c but it should run smoother.

Spoon B18C will have a 2.0L stoker kit.

Yes, it's used and might need a rebuild. But if it's good and truely is a Spoon motor then it's a good buy.

I'm just going to stop posting now so I won't derail this thread.