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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Old Sep 5, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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What are his spring rates and yours? If your Teins are stock, then 8k or about 440 front and 6k, about 330 rear.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 04:37 AM
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Are those the spring rates you're reccomending to me?
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 05:34 AM
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Default Re: stiffer springs for my tein ss coils

Originally Posted by milanoteggy
Are those the spring rates you're reccomending to me?
No those are what should be on the car already

alternative u should go for something like F12 R10 if ur after stiff rates
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 06:25 AM
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Default Re: stiffer springs for my tein ss coils

Oh ok thanks, second question what springs should I get? Eibach, PIC, skunk2? Any recommendations, I'm assuming coilover companys will sell just the springs too?
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 06:50 AM
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Default Re: stiffer springs for my tein ss coils

The problem with ur Tein is that they are only adjustable from the spring perch, hence why u bottom out, what u need to buy are dual perch coilovers, one that can be adjusted by the spring perch and lower body perch, essentially something like this...



Effectly, by lowering it, u have shortened ur shock stroke, which is a bad thing... Tein SS aint designed for slammed, which is what i gather what u have done.

And also, the tein SS use variable spring rates, so using linear spring rates, might not be the best idea, as the shocks are tailored to the variable spring rate, but at the end of the day, springs are springs, regardless who makes em, tein, eibachs, skunk2 etc etc
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 07:59 AM
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Be careful just raising spring rates. They may not be damped properly. I was told that you could go to 10k front and 8k rear on the Tein. If you want higher rate springs, then you may need different dampers. What are your friends spring rate since you like his?
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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I got an edfc controller for those teins. msg me if you wan the edfc. i used them on my tein ssw/p.
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Old Sep 6, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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Those coilovers were never meant to go that low. Just cause they can go that low doesn't mean they were designed to go that low. Those dampers have a sweet spot where they perform at there best.

If you have the stock spring rates then those rates are too low, but those dampers are also not able to control higher spring rates very well. I've got a set of 10k springs here that are used, pay the shipping and you can have them. Atleast let me know how it works out for you. If it doesn't help yah then you need to step it up in the suspension department.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy@AMR
Those coilovers were never meant to go that low. Just cause they can go that low doesn't mean they were designed to go that low. Those dampers have a sweet spot where they perform at there best.

If you have the stock spring rates then those rates are too low, but those dampers are also not able to control higher spring rates very well. I've got a set of 10k springs here that are used, pay the shipping and you can have them. Atleast let me know how it works out for you. If it doesn't help yah then you need to step it up in the suspension department.
Agreed, I bought a set of used tein basic dampers from a friend and i installed it with the exact height rate that he setup on his integ and I put them on my EG. Picture with the steelies was my friends setup and it bottoms out like crazy.... I raised the height higher with a new set of wheels and I don't bottom out at all. The sweet spot is when your fender gap is close, but not too close. You won't be satisfied with tein if you plan to slam your ride.
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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edfc actually helps the dampness
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 02:14 PM
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Agreed, I bought a set of used tein basic dampers from a friend and i installed it with the exact height rate that he setup on his integ and I put them on my EG. Picture with the steelies was my friends setup and it bottoms out like crazy.... I raised the height higher with a new set of wheels and I don't bottom out at all. The sweet spot is when your fender gap is close, but not too close. You won't be satisfied with tein if you plan to slam your ride.
So you went to a different profile tire but did not change the springs or dampers. The only "adjustment" was tire and wheel? Are you absorbing more impact into the tire and stopping the bottoming?
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Old Sep 10, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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So you went to a different profile tire but did not change the springs or dampers. The only "adjustment" was tire and wheel? Are you absorbing more impact into the tire and stopping the bottoming?
All I did was raise the height enough to stop the bottoming, After that the car ran fine, then I decided to switch to new wheels and tires and kept the same height setting and it's still running good. I'm assuming the teins weren't made to have a tire tuck setting. About 1-1 1/4" drop should be ideal for my setup, I tried lowering it further and it wasn't safe at all.
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