EP3 clutch questions
Hi all,
The original clutch on my wife's EP3 is finally nearing the end (one owner - 130,000 miles!), and I would like some opinions.
I just read through a thread here that was basically 3 pages of the OP being made fun of for paying $900 for a clutch job. So I guess I don't want to be that guy, but I didn't realize that price was so unreasonable.
Anyway, a few questions:
1) Is there an aftermarket setup that is just a tad heavier than stock? Neither of us like the mushy pedal of the stock clutch (even when it was new), and would like to find something a little firmer if possible. It doesn't need to actually grip harder or quicker - she won't be modifying the car and never races. It's purely a pedal feel thing.
I don't know what's good or bad on this car, and whether aftermarket is worth the expense. I have an Exedy racing clutch on one of my other cars, and she can't drive it whatsoever. I also notice every ACT seems to require a RSX Type-S flywheel as well. So maybe I should just forget this whole idea. Any advice?
2) What should I expect to pay for this in SoCal, by a non-shady shop? My regular guy, who I trust and I've previously verified all his other quotes to be fair, is telling me $800 (labor), $285 (clutch kit), $50 (flywheel resurface). This is over $1100. I called a couple other local shops, and they were all in the same general $1100-1200 range. Dealer was way worse still (obviously).
People in that other thread were bragging about having it done for $400 or less, which just sounds impossible to me. I've trusted this guy many times before, but there's a BIG difference between $400 and $1100. Does it have to do with location? If not, can anyone in SoCal recommend a good shop?
3) Finally, more generally, is there anything I should look out for or know about having this done? Presumably stock is the "best" way to go for normal commuter use, and I should forget about question 1? Any dos and don'ts? Anything that should be done while he's in there, etc? Any lightweight flywheel that's just so good I should get instead of resurfacing? Just trying to get all my ducks in a row.
Thanks guys!
The original clutch on my wife's EP3 is finally nearing the end (one owner - 130,000 miles!), and I would like some opinions.
I just read through a thread here that was basically 3 pages of the OP being made fun of for paying $900 for a clutch job. So I guess I don't want to be that guy, but I didn't realize that price was so unreasonable.
Anyway, a few questions:
1) Is there an aftermarket setup that is just a tad heavier than stock? Neither of us like the mushy pedal of the stock clutch (even when it was new), and would like to find something a little firmer if possible. It doesn't need to actually grip harder or quicker - she won't be modifying the car and never races. It's purely a pedal feel thing.
I don't know what's good or bad on this car, and whether aftermarket is worth the expense. I have an Exedy racing clutch on one of my other cars, and she can't drive it whatsoever. I also notice every ACT seems to require a RSX Type-S flywheel as well. So maybe I should just forget this whole idea. Any advice?
2) What should I expect to pay for this in SoCal, by a non-shady shop? My regular guy, who I trust and I've previously verified all his other quotes to be fair, is telling me $800 (labor), $285 (clutch kit), $50 (flywheel resurface). This is over $1100. I called a couple other local shops, and they were all in the same general $1100-1200 range. Dealer was way worse still (obviously).
People in that other thread were bragging about having it done for $400 or less, which just sounds impossible to me. I've trusted this guy many times before, but there's a BIG difference between $400 and $1100. Does it have to do with location? If not, can anyone in SoCal recommend a good shop?
3) Finally, more generally, is there anything I should look out for or know about having this done? Presumably stock is the "best" way to go for normal commuter use, and I should forget about question 1? Any dos and don'ts? Anything that should be done while he's in there, etc? Any lightweight flywheel that's just so good I should get instead of resurfacing? Just trying to get all my ducks in a row.
Thanks guys!
For a little stronger than stock your best bet is probably the RSX-S stock replacement clutch and flywheel. To run the RSX-S clutch you have to also use the flywheel, which I believe is lighter than the EP3's.
I have the RSX-S Exedy OEM replacement clutch and Competition Clutch 11.5lb lightweight flywheel. For a daily driver that setup works well for me, it sounds like stock Type-S flywheel would suit you just fine. The Type-S setup feels like what the clutch should have been to begin with, not anything extreme you need to adjust to.
I installed the clutch myself and I'm on the East Coast so I can't help with SoCal pricing. Check out clubEP3 or ephatch, there's a ton of Cali guys on there that could help with local pricing and shop recommendations. Also the cheapest place to get a clutch is Amazon. I was surprised as hell, my clutch was $117 shipped.
I have the RSX-S Exedy OEM replacement clutch and Competition Clutch 11.5lb lightweight flywheel. For a daily driver that setup works well for me, it sounds like stock Type-S flywheel would suit you just fine. The Type-S setup feels like what the clutch should have been to begin with, not anything extreme you need to adjust to.
I installed the clutch myself and I'm on the East Coast so I can't help with SoCal pricing. Check out clubEP3 or ephatch, there's a ton of Cali guys on there that could help with local pricing and shop recommendations. Also the cheapest place to get a clutch is Amazon. I was surprised as hell, my clutch was $117 shipped.
Thanks! Will look into that. Amazon sells OE clutches, or off-brand? I never even thought to look there.
Also joined ephatch and asked there, thanks for that tip as well.
Also joined ephatch and asked there, thanks for that tip as well.
2) What should I expect to pay for this in SoCal, by a non-shady shop? My regular guy, who I trust and I've previously verified all his other quotes to be fair, is telling me $800 (labor), $285 (clutch kit), $50 (flywheel resurface). This is over $1100. I called a couple other local shops, and they were all in the same general $1100-1200 range. Dealer was way worse still (obviously).
3) Finally, more generally, is there anything I should look out for or know about having this done? Presumably stock is the "best" way to go for normal commuter use, and I should forget about question 1? Any dos and don'ts? Anything that should be done while he's in there, etc? Any lightweight flywheel that's just so good I should get instead of resurfacing? Just trying to get all my ducks in a row.
No it's not. Both are 16lbs.
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