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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Ok so my baby is finally running right and its a jdm b20b, i have no heat shields under the car and its 95+ every day here.i have all of the ac lines and still have the fan but no compressor because i didnt think i would run a/c but now i have to pick my daughter up from daycare and its for her comfort. What compressor do i use?

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im not buying the hasport adapter harness to use the single cam compressor since i dont have that anymore either so which b series one will bolt up.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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nobody? will a b20 ac bracket work with any single cam ac compressor? i think this is the way i wanna go if so
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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I don't think any of the B-motor brackets allow for you to bolt up a D-motor compressor.
I also don't think a B-compressor will work without getting custom lines made. I think the connector on the hose ends are different from your stock line to what the compressor is.
Even the D-motor compressors had a couple variants of compressors and the lines were not compatible.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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yea see thats why i asked. i know for a fact that a crv ac bracket will work with a d series compressor because crvs come with d series compressors. now the issue is i dont know which d series compressor im supposed to usebor if it even matters.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Here you go this will help.

This will tell ya what compressor you have and bracket looks.

http://www.hondacivicwagon.com/bb/vi...t=5477&start=0

innovative makes one that is cheaper than hasport but the issue is finding one.

And it only works with one style compressor.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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the innovatives are all over ebay for 130 but i just dont want to pay 130. lol
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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i have one made by HCP, this one will work with an 88-91 Civic/CRX Sanden model compressor. txt me and we can work out a deal on it..
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by accordin 2 me
the innovatives are all over ebay for 130 but i just dont want to pay 130. lol
Your daughter isn't worth $130? Really?
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 06:45 AM
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Your daughter isn't worth $130? Really?
^^^ lol

If you dont to want spend much money then Its sounds like your only other option it to find a bseries or like you said CRV D series AC compresser, AC fittings with matching bracket. Then cut your AC compressors fittings off and reweld the new in place then convert to r134.

Or easier find any AC compressor from 88-91 civic. use Hasports bracket as it accepts both styles and you're done worry free.

This is a B20 EF swap I did using the Hasports bracket.

Look at the fittings and notice the differences between the old style compared to a newer AC compressor as you're wanting to do




This is an EG sorry this picture was taken to show the turbo not the AC compressor but you can see the fittings and how they differ. Your CRV compressor will be equally different.


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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 06:45 AM
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yea see thats why i asked. i know for a fact that a crv ac bracket will work with a d series compressor because crvs come with d series compressors.
Well, that sounds like a solution then.
Just use the CRV compressor and bracket, see if the CRV lines will fit, and get get custom lines made if necessary.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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yea see thats why i asked. i know for a fact that a crv ac bracket will work with a d series compressor because crvs come with d series compressors. now the issue is i dont know which d series compressor im supposed to usebor if it even matters.
the crv bracket only works with 92-00 civic d-series compressors


the easiest way to do it is get the original d-series compressor that the car was originally equipped with and use the Hasport ac bracket. install everything per the instructions and you have ac working in your car

yes you can try using a factory bracket and get custom lines made but that is going to cost more than the Hasport bracket you dont want to get. plus there will be fitment issues as well since the factory bracket will push the compressor out further into the condensor fan
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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it sounds like you have no compressor or bracket right now right? no hoses either? i was in the same predicament with my B16. i found a used P72 (GSR) bracket and Denso compressor. a local hydraulics shop charged me about $50 to modifiy the hoses to fit the crx. the newer compressors are made for r143a. all told, i spent $110 plus refrigerant.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Hasport
the crv bracket only works with 92-00 civic d-series compressors


the easiest way to do it is get the original d-series compressor that the car was originally equipped with and use the Hasport ac bracket. install everything per the instructions and you have ac working in your car

yes you can try using a factory bracket and get custom lines made but that is going to cost more than the Hasport bracket you dont want to get. plus there will be fitment issues as well since the factory bracket will push the compressor out further into the condensor fan
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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but my friend manages a hydrolic line shop so i wont have to pay for anything, wheel popped off the car so that will get fixed first then a/c. isnt the hasport mount almost 200 bucks? ive got all of my stock lines just no compressor and bracket.
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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get whatever B-series compressor you want, with matching bracket, and have your friend modify the hoses. job done!
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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is it going to be a bitch to get in?wont it push the compressor into the fan? or fan shroud? would i have the same problem with a slim fan?
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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Remembered something -
If you find that you woudl rather make lines than getting the HasPort bracket, then another option may be looking into the DelSol B16 compressor and bracket.
Those had the D-series compressor as well.
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 11:10 AM
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You should be able to get a 92-93 Civic AC compressor (R12 style), and a CRV P7J AC bracket. This should match up with your CRX AC lines if they are the "Sanden" type.

I say this because my buddy (who's car I did all the work on) had a CRX compressor on his 92 CX D-series. Whoever installed it used the CRX bracket and removed the EG-Civic 5th engine mount to make it work. We discovered this when we isntalled a B16 in the car and the compressor wouldn't bolt up to our P7J (crv) AC bracket. When he finally swapped in a re-manufactured 92-93 Civic compressor everything bolted up perfectly. That is how I know the AC hoses bolt onto both the CRX comrpessor and the EG R12 (92-93) Sanden compressor.

Soooooo....
- 92-93 Civic Compressor (Sanden TRF090)
- 97-00 CRV AC Bracket/Engine mount (38930-P7J-000)
- B-series AC belt tensioner (38941-P30-000 & 38950-P3F-305)
- CRV AC belt (38920-P3F-003)

All OEM, all good! I think I got my used P7j bracket with tensioner from another H-T member for like $40 shipped. Of course that was like 5 years ago.

Here is a pic of the 92-93 Civic TRF090 for comparison. Line ports look exactly the same as my 89 CRX Si:


Here is the sanden in a CRX (same compressor & hoses, different bracket bolt pattern):


PS: If you currently have the Matsushita (not sanden) AC system, this wont work. The hose ends are different at the compressor. This is what the connections look like at a Matsushita compressor:

Here is a CRX with a Matsushita:

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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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I did just notice the slight difference that the Civic Compressor has the ports slightly angled, while the CRX compressor has the ports flat on top. You may have to slightly bend the lines to make it work.
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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thats my hose that comes from the left side and i have to replace my right side because i kinked and broke the line putting my swap in. my local junker has a few hatches but no.sedans so ill just get both sides if mine wont match those
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Good news, that's a Sanden Compressor hose!
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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you also have to remember that the hasport bracket and innovative bracket will lift the ac compressor up off the front cross member.

You have to be careful about the stock brackets will keep it at stock height so it might interfere with front cross member.
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 05:46 PM
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Hmmm. May require more research...
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Sub'd for later reference. Lots of good info
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