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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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got a problem with my 96 ek sedan, after changing new altenator and battery, the battery light on the cluster is still on, and my headlight are dim, have anyone ever experience with this problem before? cant it a fuse or a relay causing this problem?
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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check the voltage with a volt meter and make sure its charging, and also make sure the plug in the back of the alternator is plug in good.
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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okay will double check that first thing in the morning. what if that not the problem for the battery light to stay on? how about the headlight being dim
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:19 PM
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The battery light usually comes on when there is a problem with the alternator. And means it's not charging.
Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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well the car doesnt die out, i even pull the negative off the battery car still doesnt die out. so im assuming the altenator is good still and plus i change to a new altenator
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 01:32 AM
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Get the alternator checked
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 06:06 AM
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Measure voltage across the two battery posts under these conditions:

1) Engine off
2) Engine idling, with all accessories off (no load)
3) Engine idling, with high beams, rear window defogger, and max A/C on

Post voltages for each test.
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 06:30 AM
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Take off your negative battery cable while the car is running. If it dies you need a new Alternator. It only takes two seconds
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by myallmotoreg
Take off your negative battery cable while the car is running. If it dies you need a new Alternator. It only takes two seconds
Avoid this^ crude test. Disconnecting the battery while the engine is running can produce system voltage spikes that are potentially damaging to sensitive electrical circuits.
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hmm okay, thanks ima give it a try today when my pop bring some tools i need.
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also my vss doesnt work eitehr but the rpm does. car drive find with no problem, just that battery light is on, headlight are dimm and my vss doesnt work.
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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also my vss doesnt work eitehr but the rpm does. car drive find with no problem, just that battery light is on, headlight are dimm and my vss doesnt work.
Assuming that the charging system is good and checked properly,look for the wires behind the block(close to oil filter)for rubbing on the intake manifold to engine block bracket.On those models they used to be rubbing and doing the problem that you described.I'm not sure but I think the wires are yellow colors with grey plug.
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Assuming that the charging system is good and checked properly,look for the wires behind the block(close to oil filter)for rubbing on the intake manifold to engine block bracket.On those models they used to be rubbing and doing the problem that you described.I'm not sure but I think the wires are yellow colors with grey plug.
The common fuse 15 problem you mention would prevent the cluster battery/charge light from ever turning on. This does not seem to be the problem.
Old Aug 27, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
The common fuse 15 problem you mention would prevent the cluster battery/charge light from ever turning on. This does not seem to be the problem.
He mentioned that the VSS doesn't work.IT's quick to check anyways.
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Originally Posted by exb18c1
He mentioned that the VSS doesn't work.IT's quick to check anyways.
If fuse 15 were blown, the charge light would never turn on-- but it never hurts to check.
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My battery light comes on amd off while driving sooo
Sometimes it charges sometimes it doesnt... Lights also dim when battery light comes on...
New battery (yesterday) new alt (one month ago)
Any ideas.
I believe my alt belt lets out a tiny squeek from time when I take off from a stop.
Im not sure if it killed my old battery or what buy it got progressively worse recently thethe other night my radio would cut out.
Then kick on... Eventually the car would.not stay on if my headlights were on I drove home from a few blocks away w. No headlights....
Then I replaced battery and thought I would be golden.
Then today the battery light is still kicking on and off
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Measure voltage across the two battery posts under these conditions:

1) Engine off
2) Engine idling, with all accessories off (no load)
3) Engine idling, with high beams, rear window defogger, and max A/C on

Post voltages for each test.
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Off 12.6
On no acc 13.5 then climbed to 14.0
On w/acc but no ac button 11.8 with battery light on
12.3-12.6 with battery light off
The idle also drops with battery light on.
Fan wired ti constant..
Side markers wires to blink with blinkers if any of that helps.
Car is turbo running hondata s200 stock engine
98 civic hatch dx
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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Off 12.6
On no acc 13.5 then climbed to 14.0
On w/acc but no ac button 11.8 with battery light on
12.3-12.6 with battery light off
The idle also drops with battery light on.
Fan wired ti constant..
Side markers wires to blink with blinkers if any of that helps.
Car is turbo running hondata s200 stock engine
98 civic hatch dx
Your alternator is bad.
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Measure voltage across the two battery posts under these conditions:

1) Engine off
2) Engine idling, with all accessories off (no load)
3) Engine idling, with high beams, rear window defogger, and max A/C on

Post voltages for each test.

engine off :12 v
engine on with everything off : 14v
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Default Re: ek sedan. battery light stay on and headlight are dim

But its brand new!
Is it possible the belt is loose.
Or the connection?
I checked.both and they "seemed ok"
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check all the fuses also non pop. i recently replace the Electrical load circuit high input
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Originally Posted by wing.jai
engine off :12 v
engine on with everything off : 14v
Do test 3.
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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But its brand new!
Is it possible the belt is loose.
Or the connection?
I checked.both and they "seemed ok"
Alternators come bad right out of the box. It cannot keep up with any extra electrical load.
Old Aug 28, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Default Re: ek sedan. battery light stay on and headlight are dim

Tihat suuucks.. It was a pain to get out...
After it was disconnected we had a hard time "removing" it
Thank you very much



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