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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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I have an eg ferio, and third gear is really bad, pops out immediately, I'm forced to shift from 2nd to 4th. Should i replace the third gear syncro? Or, my bro brought it to my attention that I should save up for a gsr tranny, and do a full blown tranny swap... what would you do? oh it has an ls swap btw
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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I assume your runing the LS trans?

If so, if you can afford the a GSR b16/ITR trans do it!
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 05:16 AM
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Rebuild it with ITR 1st and 2nd and GSR 3rd, 4th, and 5th with a ITR final drive.

Then you'll be golden!
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 07:23 AM
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If you decide to rebuild the transmission, use synchrotech carbon synchros, best decision I ever made. It probably wouldn't hurt to replace the synchro sleeves as well...
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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cheapest= get another LS transmission ugghh or if you want an upgrade get a gsr. b16 is kool but not for freeway. cheapest bang for you buck is to get a gsr w/ factory lsd, and if this is a daily driver it will be plenty enough w/ a good clutch/flywheel.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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I would stay away from a GSR with factory LSD. They break internally all the time at the neck inside the LSD. They also have a final drive setup that doesn't allow you to easily swap if you ever decide to do so(has a different bolt pattern). If you have a B16 now..going to a GSR will give you longer gear ratios and lead to decreased acceleration speed vs. the B16 trans. If you have an LS trans then either will be a viable upgrade. If you are having a pop out issue it can be the following: Synchro spring, worn sleeve, gear, fork or all of them. While you are there I would upgrade the synchros to carbon which aid in high RPM shifting. Let me know if you have any further questions and feel free to PM me anytime.

Here is a pic of a broken JDM GSR factory LSD

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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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thnx guys, I'll probably save up fr the gsr, just feels weird not being able to shift to third
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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What transmission do you have now?
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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I think he has the ls. Reason I was saying the gsr with factory lsd because if he's just DD it will be well enough, but if it's track car i would just rebuild what he's got with itr etc..
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ej1b18c1
I think he has the ls. Reason I was saying the gsr with factory lsd because if he's just DD it will be well enough

That broken LSD is off a DD car actually(repaired it for a friend of mine)....Just age of the transmission and you never know its prior use before it got here to the U.S.

LS swap...duhh! I should read more carefully! lol
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by James@Gearspeed

LS swap...duhh! I should read more carefully! lol
I did it too. I had it all typed out and looked up. lol

My buddy bought a GSR with a broken LSD. Guy finialy admited it later.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Ya it all depends where you buy the transmission from lol could look really clean on the outside but we all know that it matters from with-in. Now that you brought it up, a gsr trans used is more likely to be beat to crap than any other.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ej1b18c1
Ya it all depends where you buy the transmission from lol could look really clean on the outside but we all know that it matters from with-in. Now that you brought it up, a gsr trans used is more likely to be beat to crap than any other.
Exactly, looks are very deceving.(sp) lol This one looked new, but was shot when we opend it up.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by James@Gearspeed
What transmission do you have now?
Stock Ls tranny, my boy was telling me to try changing the tranny fluid. I'll do that when Irene passes and see whats up
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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Fluid is not going to magically fix a damaged hard part inside a trans. So save your money on "magical" fluids. If a trans has an issue its got to be fixed no matter what. Some fluids may mask a grind problem..but its still damaged and will only get worse. Use that cash towards your GSR.
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by James@Gearspeed
Fluid is not going to magically fix a damaged hard part inside a trans. So save your money on "magical" fluids. If a trans has an issue its got to be fixed no matter what. Some fluids may mask a grind problem..but its still damaged and will only get worse. Use that cash towards your GSR.
X2! Save the trans fluid for your new tranny!
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