ok here's the run down. I have a 92 4 dr civic. It's a b18c motor with every bolt on. In case you guys forgot here's a pic of my car.

First run Second run third run
r/t 1.145 1.062 .856
60' 2.599 2.493 2.692
330 6.949 6.629 6.820
1/8 10.393 10.003 10.230
mph 71.78 73.79 72.16
1000 13.327 12.919 13.156
1/4 15.805 15.408 15.651
mph 90.96 90.47 90.55

I know there is much improvement needed in my 60 times and my r/t time. And keep in mind this is on drag radials. The first run i just spun out the whole first and second. The second run i hookedup a little earlier but still not good. The third time i tryed to launch a little lower but it just bogged. The funny thing is someone there who i know ran a 14.8 and I beat him all the time on the street. Can you guys give me some advice or help me cheer up. I really feel like ****. But i know it can't be the cars fault and that it has to be mine

 

and I also weighed my car. It came out to 2400 without me in it and i weigh about 180. The run was at moroso motorsports. The tire pressure of my first run was like 35 then we put it down to 20. But I still suck.

 

Yeah, your 60' times are horrible but I wouldn't worry about your R/Ts if you're just doing test and tune or something. What RPM are you launching at? Dumping the clutch or feathering it?

 

the first time i launched at like 4grand. I thought that since i have Falken azenis i could do that but i was definetly wrong. The second run was like 3500 which was a little better but not good enough. The last run i launched at about 2500 and it just bogged out. But can someone give me some advice. I know i suck but i atleast expected to hit around a 14.8

 

your reaction times don't matter at all, as far as your E.T. goes, but when you're dialed in and racing somebody else, you want as fast a reaction time as possible. I can't believe you got those 60 foots with drag radials! That's actually pretty bad. How high above sea level are you? Just work on your launches, thats all that needs to be done for now, you can be the quickest shifter in the west, but your times will be nothing without a good launch. Just go to the track on a test and tune day, and get em down...it's kinda hard first time at the track, since you;re focusing on so much stuff, but if you need to, stay an extra second after the light turns green to get your revs right! Might **** somebody off, but you're learning. Did you do a burnout before? Or just squeal the tires?

 

i didn't do a burnout or anything but next time i'm definetly gonna do a nice big one. But what i don't understand is that i launch on the street at about 4 grand and it hooks up perfectly. Like i said there was someone there that ran a 14.8 and i beat him by atleast a car on the street. IT seems like the street surface is more sticky than the track. I don't think elevation is a issue since i live in miami and it's pretty much at like sealevel

 

take some air out of your front tire

 

you should be able to run mid 14s with that set-up, just need a better 60' time and make sure you're shfiting right before fuel cut.

I launch at 4500-6000.

 

Ok, Miami-sorry, didn't look under your avitar...yeah, you should take some air out of the fronts, and keep the rear's full. What's the PSI right now??? You could take about 10-12 lbs out, don't do a long burnout. Avoid the water, and drop the clutch at about 5 grand, just to get the tires spinning/warm them up/and throw off accumilated rocks and crap. Mess around with your air pressure/ rev launch/ and how you're feathering the clutch- if at all, you might want to try feathering a little too, if you're still spinning with less air pressure.!!!

 

the first run the tire pressure was at about 35 then i lowered it to 20 and it was a little bit better but not much. The only thing that i don't understand is that i beat someone who ran a 14.8 on the street but when it came to the track i couldn't even hang with him.

 

i ran my 92 4 dr with stock 13s and stock suspension with a jdm sir II header intake full exhaust and full interior ran 15.3 but it was 95 degrees out and 50% humidity so i figure ill run high 14s with my set up now.. skunk 2 coilovers on slipstreams. calm down at the launch ..i was really nervous .. just be calm and watch the lights i launch at like 4Gs.. good luck

 

Hmm my GS-R w/ K&N filter and suspension only, no spare tire and driver's seat only ran a 15.01 @ 92.7 the first time I took it to the track, on street tires too. Get that 60' time down and you'll be doing good.

 

ok so here's the plan. Next time i go to the track I gotta lower the tire pressure to 20 psi. Then avoid the water pull the ebrake and do a burnout for a few seconds. Then line it up and be patient. Calm down, breath and get ready to win. When it turns green don't dump it just kinda feather it out and hopefully my 60 will be like a 2 then i'm on my way to hopefully a mid 14

 

Don't pull the e brake, it's not needed. Just drop the clutch high and get the tires spinning quick bit. Probably won't hurt to ebrak up though. But yeah, deffinately get the 60 foots down. Try different launches and see what you get. It's going to be different than the street, and see what side of the track your car likes better. Last time I was at the track, I was hoppin on one side, and spinning like crazy on the other. JUst get all those variable working against you under control and you'll be putting down some good times.Just make sure top have fun...you're not racing for a living, so if you're times aren't where you like them...screw it and have fun. I think it's more fun than most amusement park rides..

 

one- azenis ARE NOT drag tires in any way shape or form, so please don't consider them that. . .

two - I don't know much about drag racing, but I do know that I've never seen anything close to 2.00 60' with those kind of tires. . .

 

if he's driving right, his 60 foots should be down to 2.2...which isn't too bad. I was getting horrible traction last time at track with some street tires-Nitto NT450's, and my best 60 foot was 2.38. I could easily drop 2/10's with better tires and better driving

 

Got to shave that 60 foot down to at least 1.8 or better and got to get the mid trakc #'s better. you can play with suspension and yes lower the tire pressure or go to slicks. and of course lightening the car does help. Another thing street racing and track racing are different,even though you may spank your friend that doesn't mean you are beating the clock.

 

Those MPH don't really indicate he's capable of hitting 14s...

 

WORD!! that MPH is on the low side, has the motor been tuned? low 15's at best.

 

well i gotta go now, but i will edit this post later heres a quick run down

96 dx 4dr full interior
w/ rotas falkens
lowered tirepressure to 20llbs

BEST TIME
STOCK gsr.....14.9 @ 92.5mph
2.2 60ft

ill let you know more when i get back latz

 

He is right, the Azenis are anything but drag tires. The sidwalls are super stiff for autocross and road racing.

 

well try the azenis at 27lbs. in the front that worked good for me also who said the azenis are drag radials ,another thing drive thru the water box and as soon as you pass it do a small burnout and instea of dumping the clutch ride it out a bit until you get traction also what do you have done to your motor because 90 seems a bit low for a gsr motor,good luck next time you'll get better the track is totally different than the street

 

Hes right, its totally different in the track. when i had my falken azenis, i droped it to about 28 psi i dont do burn outs and launced around 5000-5500 feathering the clutch and my best was a 2.3 60' w/ a b16a I/H/E. This was also at palmdale california. anyone that whos been there knows exactly how shitty this track is. nice MPH though, its all about the launching.

 

i actualy don`t know why most people do such as those numbers by their dohc powered cars... this is my ride... with a d16z6 with basic bolt on mods no nos no turbo even no big things brothers.....



and this is my best ET on **** tires launches were at 3500-4000 rpms and my front tires were at 10 psi (trick) look at my 60` times bro with shitty tires they are all dead i swear and with a sohc engine... i`m working now on an all motor frankenstein engine about 6000 dolars involved when i`m done with the swap i`ll post my new pics... peace ya all and good luck



peace.....

 

Ok, maybe I'm forgetting something here but why the hell would he go through the water box. The water box is great for putting on a smoke show but on street tires, it does nothing but open the possibility of getting water in the treads. Guess what...Water on your tires means less traction on the line . You should bypass the box unless your running slicks (which need the water to help get them spinning and have no tread for water to stay in...).

Also, I think somebody did a test a while back trying to figure out the best launch procedures for a bunch of different tires. If I remember correctly, the Azenis did the best with no burnout or a very small 1-2 second squeel. Not positive on that one though.