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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:41 AM
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this is by far the most beautiful upper strut bar i have seen. i remember some saying that this style bar isn't legal for SCCA solo2. is that true?

this is allmotorITRs car. sorry for the picture pirating



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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:47 AM
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I believe it depends on the class you're running in, but in the closer-to-stock classes, only two point strut bars that connect only the towers are legal.

Three points bars like that bump you up a class, IIRC.

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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:47 AM
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Very NOT-legal for Solo II other than in Prepared and Modified
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:57 AM
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If he is running in CSP, boot his *** out


edit: I can't spell

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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 07:06 AM
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edited cause i'm a moron


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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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I didn't say anything about Street Modified. I said Prepared and Modified.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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Just disconnect the back section for solo2...
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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I didn't say anything about Street Modified
yeah, sorry..... i mis-read it


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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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but in the closer-to-stock classes, only two point strut bars that connect only the towers are legal.

Three points bars like that bump you up a class, IIRC.
what about the neuspeed bar for the preludes...

http://prelude.vtec.net/gen4/perform...neutiebar.html
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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what about the neuspeed bar for the preludes...
The Neuspeed bar is legal. It still connects the two shock towers. The 3-point thing means that the bar not just mounts to the two shock towers, but also mounts to the firewall. Then that's illegal.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:27 AM
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Just disconnect the back section for solo2...
I don't think the bar can touch the firewall - whether it is bolted or not. I remember a few years back someone developed a cantilever-style brace that would push on the firewall when the towers would flex thus transferring the force to the firewall. It didn't bolt on but they still ruled it illegal.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:47 AM
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I don't think the bar can touch the firewall - whether it is bolted or not. I remember a few years back someone developed a cantilever-style brace that would push on the firewall when the towers would flex thus transferring the force to the firewall. It didn't bolt on but they still ruled it illegal.
hmmm... I Didn't know that.

C.Strut bars are permitted with all types of suspension. Strut bars may be mounted only transversely across the car from upper right to upper left suspension mounting point and from lower right to lower left suspension mounting point. No other configuration is permitted. Additional holes may be drilled for mounting bolts. Only bolt-on attachment is permitted.
It still seems vague but who am I to argue... I 'm still new to the sport.


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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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Here is your answer:

No other configuration is permitted.


The allowed configuration is as follows:

Strut bars may be mounted only transversely across the car from upper right to upper left suspension mounting point and from lower right to lower left suspension mounting point.


The bar above is a different configuration since it also goes to the firewall. In regards to the different configuration, see the first part of my post.

The SCCA tells you in the beginning of the book that if it doesn't specifically say you can do something then to assume you can't.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Who makes this STB, and do they make one for 5gen Accords?
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 10:53 AM
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the sticker on it says BENEN, but it's not listed on their site.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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More importantly, I may be a big dumb animal, but I cant deduce how one would attach that to the firewall, unless you remove the dash to thread a nut on the other side.

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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 11:42 AM
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More importantly, I may be a big dumb animal, but I cant deduce how one would attach that to the firewall, unless you remove the dash to thread a nut on the other side.
Remove the wipers and cowl cover. It bolts to the firewall in that area.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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It bolts to the firewall in that area.
my car even has the nutz already there.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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More importantly, I may be a big dumb animal, but I cant deduce how one would attach that to the firewall, unless you remove the dash to thread a nut on the other side.

There are already threaded holes there. Ive seen the same holes on EG's DC's and EK's
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 12:20 PM
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so, how can i get one? i'd keep my OEM bar for racing, and throw this on for street

they're not listed on BENEN's site
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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Default Re: sweet! but is it legal? (DOHC-DX)

how about CALLING benen.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 01:06 PM
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It bolts to the firewall in that area.my car even has the nutz already there.
Groovy. Im at work and have never really noticed them before. Guess this gives me an excust to go wander out in the parking lot and stare at my car.

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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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The SCCA tells you in the beginning of the book that if it doesn't specifically say you can do something then to assume you can't.
that rule always gets me...I always think, 'it doesn't say anything about this, maybe I'll try it,' then I remember that if it isn't mentioned, it's illegal
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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so, how can i get one? i'd keep my OEM bar for racing, and throw this on for street

they're not listed on BENEN's site
lol, how ironic...
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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Very NOT-legal for Solo II other than in Prepared and Modified
illegal, you say? Good, then we know it works
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