I just bought a 03 type s and want to replace the suspension. I was doing some research and am caught between either the tein ss, eibach sportline or eibach pro kit combined with koni yellows.


The car will be my daily driver with some spirited driving here and there. I just want a good shock/spring combo that DOES NOT REQUIRE me to buy a camber kit.

I will be running the stock 16" type s rims with 225/50 tires.

Any inputs or pictures of these springs with the konis will be appreciated. Thanks

 

you really dont have to get a camber kit at all for any setup

it is although recommended that you do anyways. when you lower it your camber will change... to maximize tire wear and performance of your car through turns you should want to adjust your camber into certain specs.
and
new camber arms can really tighten up your driving a lot.
you'd be surprise how easily the stock bushings on the camber arms tear.

 

How do the progress sport springs versus eibach sport spring compare with Konis?

Just trying to do the suspension right on the first try.

 

try the koni's with the stock type's springs.....With a good preformance alinment you will be shocked at how good the car handles.

 

I am just looking for a good set of springs to match up with the koni's so i can get a good ride, good handling and a good drop. It will be my daily. I was even looking at getting the progress coilovers or mugen. Anyone have any experience they wanna share?

 

i hear mixed review about the mugens. some say it's too stiff or not stiff....or too low...or that they sag fast...or that they wear out fast...yeah idk

i actually had a set of mugens i was going to buy but i opted to go with aspec rsx.

i've never heard anything bad about progress coilovers.

 

Now you will.

they were never made to fit 05-06 so shocks hit the mounts in rear. no bracket on the front to hold camber bolts in place making frequent alignments necessary.. 350 spring rate in front is rather soft for autocross. lots of noises. hard to get even height. rust.

TS, if you are a spirited driver, listen to what the others said and GET CAMBER KITS.

 

Camber kit is a must... do it right or don't do it at all!

 

Why is a camber kit a must? Just to add more negative camber on the front suspension? I would figure that rear camber would change pretty significantly, but front camber really won't. Especially with just lowering springs that lower the car between 1-2''.

I think that the biggest thing on these cars is not over lowering it. If you want to go much lower than bout 1.5'', I would suggest shocks that are full body adjustable and something to adjust roll center.

Camber doesn't really wear tires, BTW, unless all you're doing is burnouts and straight line driving. Toe will change when any other suspension angle changes....and that's what eats up tires. Fix the toe.

 

well shouldn't he get a rear camber kit to reduce camber in rear? it already comes with more camber in rear than front from stock. front bolts at least have a little adjustability

 

you need to reduce camber in the rears. i can almost for certain say it will be far too negative once you lower the car even by an inch.

for the fronts...the front camber bolts only cost like $25...it helps alot to have negative camber in the front. and im sure you can live with $25 dollars out of pocket for something that will drastically help the car.

 

Camber bolts are such junk, though. They always slip. You could use camber plates. They're more $$, but they actually work.

 

With his suggested setup using kONI inserts in front they are not likely to slip. Just have them impacted

Front camber kit can get you up to 1.4 usually as in just the stock bolts

 

whatever you decide, I'd get a camber kit. its not that expensive and will save you in tire costs.

I went with the ingalls rear kit on my rsx. you dont need a front camber kit. also, camber plates up top dont really help. they just mess up the suspension geometry. and since the front has double wishbone suspension, it wont get messed up from a little drop anyways. Lastly, koni/eibach are basically the better manufacturers of shocks/springs. they've both been around longer and are highly more widely used in the racing scene.

$.02

 

i always hear mixed things about this... some say they slip others swear they don't...

the way i see it is...just try it out for yourself you won't be more than $30 dollars out of pocket if it ends up not working out.

 

Please do not post ever again.

 

Haha my bad. It's been a few years since I had my rsx

Correction: rear has dw susp. Not front

 

The RSX doesn't have a rear double wishbone. It's a rear multi link. The front is a MacPherson strut. The problem with dropping a car with Macpherson struts is that the shock travel is usually not that great, plus the roll center drops dramatically. The other issue is that MacPherson strut suspensions don't achieve much negative camber as the suspension compresses. So you get much more positive camber gain on turns vs. a double wishbone or multi link suspension.

Since the rear is multi link, it will go through a bunch of camber change in the bump cycle. Meaning that the rear will have tons of negative camber on compression or if the car is lowered.

Couple that with barely any front camber and you have a car that understeers really bad.

So you would want some sort of camber correction if you're actually going to track the car. For the street, you probably shouldn't be pushing it hard enough to notice much of a difference.

 

i disagree with this. unless you always drive when there is a crapton of traffic around, you will notice.

there's a few ways you can reduce positive camber in the front
-upgrade lca bushings
-positive caster
-upgrade roll center adjusters
-front camber kit(easiest one)

the rear's are generally easy to do
-rear camber kit
-upgrade lca bushings or the whole arms
-upgrade sway bar

it's up to you to decide which you can afford and which you want to do...
i'd start with the cheapest first...just because i'm a broke student lol