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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Okay, so im planning on changing out my timing belt, tensor, and water pump, and I have seen what the tool looks like to remove the Harmonic balancer. I cant seem to find one for sale though on the internet. Can someone that knows of where to buy one point me in the right direction? Does autozone rent them? Thanks.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Also its for a 1989 honda civic si with a d16a6 in it.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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heres a link for the tool you need.

http://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648...=5336118845-20
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648...1648788&sr=8-1
heres a pretty cheap one
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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posted at same time lol
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Thanks guys. Man i wish these things were like at most 10 bucks. lol. Do you know any alternative way of doing this without the tool, or is that just not recomended? lol. Thanks again.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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And the motor is out of the car so I cant put it in gear to hold the crankshaft... =/
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:11 PM
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well their is a cheap way to do it but you got to get creative.
i once did it with a piece of cast iron pipe with a bolt that fits in the pulley hole just right,and used a pipe wrench to hold the cast iron pipe still while loosing up the crank bolt with another wrench.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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i dont believe crx had a harmonic balancer i just did an engine swap a month ago tho and loaning a crank puller from autozone worked perfect, same for the swap i did a few years back to.
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...uller/_/N-264g

the top tool 3 jaw puller tada
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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and since you have the engine out of the car if you cant get that stupid bolt off which is always a pain (broke 4 wrenches) i took mine down to a tire shop and had them hook up a nice big impact wrench came right off woohoo
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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a good impact is the way to go for sure.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by altfuelneeded
and since you have the engine out of the car if you cant get that stupid bolt off which is always a pain (broke 4 wrenches) i took mine down to a tire shop and had them hook up a nice big impact wrench came right off woohoo
Thanks everyone for the input. And also, one of my buddys dad owns a tire shop right down the road. But if they would hook up a big inpact gun to the bolt, wouldnt it just turn the crank? Or would it break it loose?
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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it doesnt turn the crank at all its way to fast it just straight blasts that baby off with a triumphant smirk of modern tools hehe
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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well it depends on the torque of the impact it self. if it has alot torque then it could come right off. but if the pulley spins then your going to need something to hold it from spinning.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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honestly if it doesnt have enough torque to break it loose without it spinning usually from my experience it wont break it loose at all and you need more pressure which is why i suggested a tire shop because there air hoses are bigger than the typical garage hose and they can get the pressure needed! i own a impact wrench at home just cant get enough pressure
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Okay, thanks everyone for there input! I didnt really want to waste 25 dollars on a tool that I probably will only use once! And Im on a pretty strict budget too. So the more money I save, the better! Thanks once again.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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thats just my experience tho could be different for everyone, tighter compression could lead a small roll in how easily the crank spins on its own
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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sigh...

everyone who has commented above is absolutely WRONG.

FAIL.

(except whoever said take it to the shop and get it zipped off with an impact gun)

first, on our engine, its not a harmonic balancer. its just the crank pulley. on later models there is a vibration damper on the inside of the pulley, but no one calls it a harmonic balancer.

second, the D16A6 does NOT have a hex in the crank pulley, so that tool first shown WILL NOT WORK.

you have to find a way to lock the pulley and/or flywheel and muscle it off. with the engine out, i lock the flywheel with putting a flat bar across the dowel pins and then brace it against some tranny bolts i thread in. then use as big of a cheater bar and break that bolt off. it is normally threaded. 99% of threads on a honda are normal. (if you can name which arent, you get a cookie)

or you can use an impact gun to zip it off. however, normal impact guns have been known to fail simply because that bolt is typically one big mother of a pain. you gotta really use a big one, and not even a typical tire shop has enough pressure to be honest. but you can always try.

but its much easier to do the muscle way with the engine out and able to lock the flywheel.

again, ignore everything said above. it does not pertain to your engine.
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyson
sigh...

everyone who has commented above is absolutely WRONG.

FAIL.

(except whoever said take it to the shop and get it zipped off with an impact gun)

first, on our engine, its not a harmonic balancer. its just the crank pulley. on later models there is a vibration damper on the inside of the pulley, but no one calls it a harmonic balancer.

second, the D16A6 does NOT have a hex in the crank pulley, so that tool first shown WILL NOT WORK.

you have to find a way to lock the pulley and/or flywheel and muscle it off. with the engine out, i lock the flywheel with putting a flat bar across the dowel pins and then brace it against some tranny bolts i thread in. then use as big of a cheater bar and break that bolt off. it is normally threaded. 99% of threads on a honda are normal. (if you can name which arent, you get a cookie)

or you can use an impact gun to zip it off. however, normal impact guns have been known to fail simply because that bolt is typically one big mother of a pain. you gotta really use a big one, and not even a typical tire shop has enough pressure to be honest. but you can always try.

but its much easier to do the muscle way with the engine out and able to lock the flywheel.

again, ignore everything said above. it does not pertain to your engine.
Thanks Tyson. I will deffinantly have to try this when I go back into the garage. And if i cant get it that way, I guess I can always try an impact gun. Haha.
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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i put a pair ow vice grips on mine flwheel when my motor was out. and then used a breaker bar to pop that bolt off. worked every time
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfsbain
i put a pair ow vice grips on mine flwheel when my motor was out. and then used a breaker bar to pop that bolt off. worked every time
May I ask how did you put the vice grips on the flywheel? Did you like clamp it on there so that the vice grips wouldnt move against the ground?
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Old Jul 26, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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If your flywheel is still on, then you can take one clutch bolt and one tranny bolt and then bolt some small chain between the two.
You can also bolt on a 12mm open end wrench between the two.

Same as Tyson's suggestion, but with the bolts rather than trying to get hold onto the pins.

I've done both methods... work equally as well.
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