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Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Default Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

all i can find is this info on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_F_engine#F23A4

im pretty sure its obd2 but not sure

im asking because i found one with a manual transmission and the clutch pedal Assembly all for $650 and i really want a sohc vtec. and it only has about 16,000 miles on it.

I want to use it in my 95 accord. but i need the ecu and harness and blah blah blah.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

F23A4 is an OBD2b. Anything 96 and up is OBD2.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

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F23A4 is an OBD2b. Anything 96 and up is OBD2.
how much do you think i could get out of it all?
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

How much what.... horse power?

Remember that the F23A4 is the ULEV version of the 2.3L F series, it is actually rated for approx the same Hp as a stock F22B1 VTEC (145 crank hp) that's only 10hp more than a stock F22B2 Non VTEC (135 crank Hp). Even if you were to go with a Non ULEV F23A1. They are rated for 150 crank Hp (120-130whp).

There are options available to build up your existing engine. Using the F23 intake manifold & throttle body swap in conjunction with a good cam, header, exhaust and a tune would get you up in that same power range.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

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How much what.... horse power?

Remember that the F23A4 is the ULEV version of the 2.3L F series, it is actually rated for approx the same Hp as a stock F22B1 VTEC (145 crank hp) that's only 10hp more than a stock F22B2 Non VTEC (135 crank Hp). Even if you were to go with a Non ULEV F23A1. They are rated for 150 crank Hp (120-130whp).

There are options available to build up your existing engine. Using the F23 intake manifold & throttle body swap in conjunction with a good cam, header, exhaust and a tune would get you up in that same power range.
i meant how much money haha my bad

but thanks for the info man
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

Honestly, it's probably not worth much more than $650-$800. It really depends on supply and demand in your area. If no one is looking for F23A4 engines in your area. They aren't going to be worth that much.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 07:48 AM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

the guy was trying to say the local import salvage offered him $1300 just for the motor.
but he was full of **** haha.

i called every place in town and only the scrap yard would buy it for 100 or 200.

no one will take a motor out of the car. it has to be in the car and running.


thank god for the internet.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

Yeah they are cheap. I bought two for $200. I built one for performance (in my car now) and I'm giving the other one a stock rebuild and gonna use it as a backup motor.
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 09:12 AM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

Originally Posted by GhostAccord
How much what.... horse power?

Remember that the F23A4 is the ULEV version of the 2.3L F series, it is actually rated for approx the same Hp as a stock F22B1 VTEC (145 crank hp) that's only 10hp more than a stock F22B2 Non VTEC (135 crank Hp). Even if you were to go with a Non ULEV F23A1. They are rated for 150 crank Hp (120-130whp).

There are options available to build up your existing engine. Using the F23 intake manifold & throttle body swap in conjunction with a good cam, header, exhaust and a tune would get you up in that same power range.
you got me thinking
how easy would it be to swap a f22b1 head from 96 accord onto a f22b2 block from a 95 accord?


im confused on the obd. wouldnt 96 be obd 2?

or is it even the same bolt pattern? i know the spark plugs are *** backwards, but that doesnt really matter right?
just as long *** they bolt together
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 01:47 PM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

Swapping the F22B1 VTEC head is pretty much a waste of time. Unless you are goin gto get a cam with a more aggressive VTEC lobe.

If your looking for a head swap that is going to give you the best bang for your buck. Look for an F23A1 or even better yet the non VTEC F22A1-6 out of the 90-93 Accords. PT3 heads are a good flowing head right out of the box. The F22B2 or B1 require work just to flow as well as the A1-A6 heads do stock.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

Originally Posted by GhostAccord
Swapping the F22B1 VTEC head is pretty much a waste of time. Unless you are goin gto get a cam with a more aggressive VTEC lobe.

If your looking for a head swap that is going to give you the best bang for your buck. Look for an F23A1 or even better yet the non VTEC F22A1-6 out of the 90-93 Accords. PT3 heads are a good flowing head right out of the box. The F22B2 or B1 require work just to flow as well as the A1-A6 heads do stock.
I want to do a bisimoto single cam build.
i figured the single cam vtec would help a little in comparison to a non vtec.

and on this head swap do i need to customize any electrical stuff?
like is my obd fine?

sorry for the million questions man
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Is an F23a4 obd 1 or 2?

Originally Posted by granny racer
I want to do a bisimoto single cam build.
i figured the single cam vtec would help a little in comparison to a non vtec.

and on this head swap do i need to customize any electrical stuff?
like is my obd fine?

sorry for the million questions man
Head swap is very strait forward and is a direct bolt on. You will have to use the correct intake manifold and head gasket according to the cylinder head and you can use your original fuel injectors and distributor so not much wiring if at all would have to be done.

Here at Bisimoto we can help you with building either a vtec or non-vtec F22 motor and have available performance regrinds for either motor. Only advantage with vtec would be have a less lopy idle but either motor can yield same power with proper supporting parts and tune. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you out with
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