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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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Default 00 Civic/B18C1 - dissapointed with 1/4 mi time, any suggestions?

i timed my car last year when i just got the swap in. everything was stock on the motor, and i ran a 15.6 bone stock. since then ive put in alot of parts, but i didnt get a big gain in speed as i was expecting. i timed my car last night and did a 14.9. i was told when i got my tune, that i needed bigger injectors because i pretty much maxed out the stock injectors. and im hoping thats the reason why, so i can release the power that ive been expecting. i know im not the best driver but the difference between the two times i ran should be greater. is there any recommended parts i should add to my support my setup? or will bigger injectors do the trick? or is my setup meant to run roughly 14.9s?

2000 civic hatch
2000 B18C1
injen cai
skunk2 im
hondata im gasket
jdm itr header
magnaflow high flow cat
apexi ws2 exhaust
skunk2 tuner 1 cams
itr pistons
tuned p28
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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what do you mean you timed yourself? like with a stop watch?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Default Re: 00 Civic/B18C1 - dissapointed with 1/4 mi time, any suggestions?

picking up .7s with those mods is not a bad pickup, but 14.9 in a cx hatch with that setup should do quite a bit faster
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
what do you mean you timed yourself? like with a stop watch?
no...at the race track.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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picking up .7s with those mods is not a bad pickup, but 14.9 in a cx hatch with that setup should do quite a bit faster
i should mention i have full interior, AC and power steering, power windows. but that shouldnt make that much difference. but thanks.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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post up your slips then so we can see whats happening and when. also what was the difference in weather conditions?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:34 AM
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ok, heres how it reads on the slip with the best time i ran

reaction .580
I1 2.423
I2 6.482
I3 9.774
mphI3 76.099
I4 12.583

E.T 14.955
MPH 92.733
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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i should mention i have full interior, AC and power steering, power windows. but that shouldnt make that much difference. but thanks.
ya but its still not as heavy as a 99-00 si and should make more power, iv seen I/H/E em1s go
low 15s and high 14s
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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ok, heres how it reads on the slip with the best time i ran

reaction .580
I1 2.423
I2 6.482
I3 9.774
mphI3 76.099
I4 12.583

E.T 14.955
MPH 92.733
need to get that 60' down thats hurt n a lot
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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-Dinky header
-Dinkey exhaust
small cams

"ok" bolt ons.

You gainned .7 in the 1/4 and you're upset about that?? I would have been disappointed had i put a "real" exhaust system on there, with a real header and a real set of cams..
you have crap for add-ons and are running a good time.. you're not anywhere near close to maxxing out stock injectors.

S2s1's are only a semi more aggressive type-r cam..

A good header, a 3'' exhaust and a set of good cams would probably wake you up a whole lot.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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Default Re: 00 Civic/B18C1 - dissapointed with 1/4 mi time, any suggestions?

hey thanks for the bashing "all motor"
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: 00 Civic/B18C1 - dissapointed with 1/4 mi time, any suggestions?

start with lowering those 60' times.run a set of slicks or just feather it instead of laying into the gas full blast and spinning so much. car will run much better once you get those 60 foots down. a set of slicks will be your best option to lower the 60

Good luck!!
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 00 Civic/B18C1 - dissapointed with 1/4 mi time, any suggestions?

Originally Posted by NOOdS
hey thanks for the bashing "all motor"
Not bashing at all.

Infact you should understand that you've picked up a good amount of power..

You should be excited to see how the motor really does with REAL parts.

I also am inclinded to agree with h22, i think a set of 22 or 23'' slicks would be ideal for your setup.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Injectors will do nothing for you... what did the motor make on the dyno and what fuel are you running ?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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when finding out if mods made a real life difference compare MPH...
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hello1320
when finding out if mods made a real life difference compare MPH...
exactly. MPH tells power.. ET's have too many variables to have any effect on power output telling.

you're better off running like you would.. and just comparing mph.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Default Re: 00 Civic/B18C1 - dissapointed with 1/4 mi time, any suggestions?

Originally Posted by hello1320
Injectors will do nothing for you... what did the motor make on the dyno and what fuel are you running ?
In for dyno #'s and where did you tune it at? 91 octane I'm sure.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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i couldnt find my dyno chart...i dont remember the torque, but whp was at 167. and yes i use 91 octane. i got the tune at RD Tech.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 01:36 PM
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Spoon, who built your motor?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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What psi are you running in the tires, street tires, radial? Like someone else mentioned that 60ft is killing you, MPH isn't too bad
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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im not upset that i ran a 14.9, i know i need some practice. im just more upset that i only ran .7 secs faster with all the new parts added. is .7 secs an average gain i should be expecting with all the add ons? id just thought it should be more. tell me if im wrong, thanks. thats pretty much what i wanted to know, and not how to run better times, because i raced the same both times. i just wanted to see better results from the upgrades.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Worry about Trap speed.. if you're worried about power numbers

when you ran a 15 whatever, what was your trap? and then compare it to the 14.9 trap.

ETs have too many variables to calulate whether or not you gainned power

Dropping .7 is a good amount.. if you picked up 4mph thats a good amount of power added. Bolt-ons aren't going to produce massive results unless its a really good / custom header, manifold and exhaust setup..with better intakes and ****.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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Not a big fan of drag radials. But you can get a pair of them or even some slicks and your 60's will drop , helping lower your E.T. . But I think if you get in some seat time and play with air pressures you can go lower. Seat time is very important. Its easy for anyone to just mash on the gas and rip through gears. Launching & peddling takes lots of work.
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