Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Default Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

I tried the hybrid forum and got 0 replies, so maybe I'll have better luck here.....


I have been planning boosted B16 for a long time, with a power goal of 350 or so.

Would it be smarter (read more cost effective) for me to go boosted ZC?

I mean, I'm pretty sure it would be cheaper for the same amount of power, but I'm not 100% sure on what I can use that I already have.

It would be going in a 90 CRX Si, so I can use the existing mounts, tranny, wiring?, but I need to change the ECU?

I know I need to convert to OBD1 to boost it.

On the other hand, it won't get boosted anytime soon, so I may as well just go with the B16 to get the extra oomph over the ZC to keep me happy until I can get everything I need to properly boost it.

Thoughts?
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:36 PM
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ZC FTW! You can do it alot cheaper than a B16 and also you can always stay OBD0 and run Turboedit (it has alot of great features and easy to use now), save some more money.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:56 PM
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there both stupid
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by KINGVEM^^ED6
there both stupid
A reply like that has no credibility, but it has even less when you show a lack basic language skills.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

If you're going to wait on the boost, why not go LS/V. Then you have even more oomph before turbo. You'll love the extra torque.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 03:17 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

I would, but I pretty much can't source any of the parts locally, so by the time all is said and done I'll have alot more into it.

I'm going to call around today and see if there's anything in a yard anywhere that I can go and cannibalize, but I haven't seen anything worthwhile lately.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 04:28 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by JordanG1028
If you're going to wait on the boost, why not go LS/V. Then you have even more oomph before turbo. You'll love the extra torque.
LS-V requires a tune to run properly, costly conversion pieces, ect...

OP if you want to have fun and save money, LS-T is your best bet. A bone stock LS will meet your goals for horsepower and you cheap budget at the same time. Converting to OBD-1 is preferable for those goals, but not a necessity. Either way, I think it would be wise to do the swap first (electrical and mechanical) to check for reliability or unforseen issues. Then add the turbo later... otherwise stick with your ZC and save the most money upfront, but you won't easily meet your power goals without more money on the back end.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

So if I go LS when the time comes, what am I going to have to do to it to get a safe 350 when I boost it?

Pistons, rods, cams, valves, springs, etc.?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

LMAO nice one

Originally Posted by Turbo Dan
A reply like that has no credibility, but it has even less when you show a lack basic language skills.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by Spug
So if I go LS when the time comes, what am I going to have to do to it to get a safe 350 when I boost it?

Pistons, rods, cams, valves, springs, etc.?
Do you not know how to read? I answered that question in the second sentence of my paragraph.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
Do you not know how to read? I answered that question in the second sentence of my paragraph.
Got a little sand somewhere?

You're saying I can get a SAFE 350 horses out of a BONE STOCK LS with some boost.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by Spug
Got a little sand somewhere?

You're saying I can get a SAFE 350 horses out of a BONE STOCK LS with some boost.
Yes, with a conservative tune as well.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Good deal, thanks guys.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 03:45 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by Spug
Got a little sand somewhere?

You're saying I can get a SAFE 350 horses out of a BONE STOCK LS with some boost.
How did you know I Own beach front property?

I know what I say and how I say it; it's purposeful so as to not waste my time - unless I am having fun belittling people that is... If you go to the LS-T thread in the Forced Induction forum you will see PAGES of people putting down numbers as high as 400whp on "BONE STOCK" LS engines... I have one myself... It's the most underrated engine out there. They have lower compression than most Honda engines from the factory. With the best gearing from the USDM - LS transmission.

(Better go buy me a few dozen right now so when kids catch on, I can make a small fortune.)
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
it's purposeful so as to not waste my time
Isn't that what the interwebz is for?

Thanks for your help.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Just go k-series all motor 300whp end of story
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 05:37 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

I like my boosted b16 get the right Turbo you'll be fine I'm running a bullseye power super 50 with regrounded type r cams id1000 and tuned on Neptune Rtp demon makes for a very responsive motoe
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:11 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by N3va3vaSatisfi3d
How did you know I Own beach front property?

I know what I say and how I say it; it's purposeful so as to not waste my time - unless I am having fun belittling people that is... If you go to the LS-T thread in the Forced Induction forum you will see PAGES of people putting down numbers as high as 400whp on "BONE STOCK" LS engines... I have one myself... It's the most underrated engine out there. They have lower compression than most Honda engines from the factory. With the best gearing from the USDM - LS transmission.

(Better go buy me a few dozen right now so when kids catch on, I can make a small fortune.)
I want to believe this as i know a buddy of mine built a Single cam for a turbo using the LS rods and i forget what pistons. My question is does the LS piston hold up to 400 HP and if so what boost levels are being run on these?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by julioboostamante
My question is does the LS piston hold up to 400 HP and if so what boost levels are being run on these?
Are you looking for a psi number?
That's going to be dependent on the turbo used to produce Whatever it takes to put down 400hp.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by 4drEF
Are you looking for a psi number?
That's going to be dependent on the turbo used to produce Whatever it takes to put down 400hp.
My question is if they are being turbo'd with stock internals and seeing those HP numbers. I cant imagine the ringlands liking that much pressure, I could be wrong of course. My only experience was with a SOHC turbo build that saw about 250hp and vitara pistons. Hence my question.

Julio
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

Originally Posted by KINGVEM^^ED6
THEY'RE both stupid

FIXED...
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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Default Re: Smarter to go boosted B16 or boosted ZC.....

You would have to do internals for the zc to handle 350, 280 is usually where the ringlands decide they dont like you anymore... Ive seen b's and h's run close to 400whp on stock internals no problem..
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